Bill:
Apparently some mere mortals do think 11 can be played with a tee shot out into 12 fairway the way it is today. Messrs. Benham and Pieracci and I were discussing exactly that off-line after they played the course last week. Many of the trees up closer to 11 green have been removed, and I believe it CAN be done now (as Mike and Steve said). It's still not a wise play in any way shape or form, but I think it is at least possible now. Of course removal of ALL the trees between 11 and 12 - giving both holes more strategic options and making both more fun - is something I've been ranting about for years in here... So it's good to see at least progress is being made.. but man I won't be fully happy until that barranca is fully deforested.
Of course I know it can't happen - our litigious society will not allow for it, same reason that 6-7-8 and 1-9 can't be returned to the open meadows they once were - but dare to dream. This does mean however the full happiness is impossible for me. Darn it.
Byron: of course all the above notwithstanding, I do love 11 and you are oh so right about 12. Re 13, have you played the new back tee? It takes a very large drive from there to even think about going for the green in two... for me, it's a better hole from the up tee, to bring that difficult choice into play. From the back tee it's a three shot hole, and where to try to place the second shot, as well as whatever approach one is left with, is still great... but that's not as fun for me as having the option to go for it - and that doesn't exist from the back tee. But of course the back tee is very needed for longer hitters, and they had room, so it's a fine addition.
Jed: great point about the tee shot on 7... that is one I have NEVER done well, so it scares the crap out of me also. My reaction though is to NOT think about it, lest the round be ruined.
TH