[Doug Wright]

Sorry if already mentioned--Mark Twain (Ross) Elmira NY.

[michael_j_fay]

Michael Blake:

Jeffersonville was the work of JB McGovern in 1931. He was in the employ of Ross at that time. A Philadelphia advertisment in 1932 refers to Jeffersonville as a course designed by Donald Ross and Associates.

You make the call.

[Bill_McBride]

Tenison Park, Dallas.  Bredemus?

Hyde Park, Jacksonville.  Ross

[Doug Wright]

Patty Jewett Golf Course, Colorado Springs, purportedly the third oldest public course west of the Mississippi.

[Ed Oden]

Tenison Park, Dallas.  Bredemus?

Bill, I'm pretty sure Tenison is a Ralph Plummer design recently updated by D.A. Weibring.

Ed

[Bill_McBride]

Tenison Park, Dallas.  Bredemus?

Bill, I'm pretty sure Tenison is a Ralph Plummer design recently updated by D.A. Weibring.

Ed

Was old Ralph designing in 1924?  That's when GolfLink says Tenison's now called Glen course opened.

[Ed Oden]

Tenison Park, Dallas.  Bredemus?

Bill, I'm pretty sure Tenison is a Ralph Plummer design recently updated by D.A. Weibring.

Ed

Was old Ralph designing in 1924?  That's when GolfLink says Tenison's now called Glen course opened.

Bill:

I doubt it.  Here is a link to Tenison's website which shows it opened in 1924 and lists Plummer as architect.  Anyone knoww for sure?

Ed
http://www.tenisonpark.com/golf/proto/tenisonpark/course2/course2.htm

[Ed Oden]

I just spotted the below "In My Opinion" by Lou Duran and Jeff Brauer.  They look like the Plummer experts.  Perhaps they can chime in.

Ed

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/opinionduran.html

[Mike McGuire]

Here are a few others of note:

* Sleepy Hollow - Brecksville, OH (Stanley Thompson)

* West Bend CC - West Bend, WI (William Langford & Theodore Moreau)

West Bend CC is a private club

You should add Brown Deer park in Milwaukee. A mini with a rich history and a current presence  ( the Greater Milwaukee open - a pga tour stop )

[Mike_Cirba]

Can anyone speak to the work that D.A. Weibring did at Cedar Crest and Brackenridge Park?

I played both of them a few years back prior to any work and the "bones" of two really good courses were certainly evident.

Was Weibring's work an attempt at "restoration", or did he renovate both courses based on more modern notions?

[Tom Walsh]

2 nine holers in St. Louis

Triple A Club, Robert Foulis 1902 (within the boundaries of Forest Park)

Ruth Park, Robert Foulis 1931 (a muni owned by the city of University City, MO)

[Phil_the_Author]

Mike,

You asked, "Can anyone speak to the work that D.A. Weibring did at Cedar Crest and Brackenridge Park?"

I can't speak to either, but I can surmise from the fact that the new management group that has taken over Brackenridge Park and their plans to complete renovate the course in hopes of bringing back as much of Tilly's original design as possible, that at least someone isn't too thrilled with the work that Weibring did there.

Also, another great Long Island Municipal course, is the Red Course at Eisenhower Park. Site of the 1926 PGA Championship and the Senior Tour's Long Island Tournament...

[Steve_ Shaffer]

 how about  Delray Beach GC(Ross,1923) in Delray Beach, FL?

[J_ Crisham]

Cog Hill 4 is a fine test of play.Have not seen the  renovation as it is in midstream. Should become even more demanding.

[Mike_Cirba]

Mike,

You asked, "Can anyone speak to the work that D.A. Weibring did at Cedar Crest and Brackenridge Park?"

I can't speak to either, but I can surmise from the fact that the new management group that has taken over Brackenridge Park and their plans to complete renovate the course in hopes of bringing back as much of Tilly's original design as possible, that at least someone isn't too thrilled with the work that Weibring did there.

Also, another great Long Island Municipal course, is the Red Course at Eisenhower Park. Site of the 1926 PGA Championship and the Senior Tour's Long Island Tournament...

Philip,

That's really sad to hear.  

Agreed about Emmet's Red Course at Eisenhower...it's very good and a lot of original work left.

[Trey Kemp]

Mike,

Regarding Cedar Crest in Dallas I was not fortunate enough to play it before the renovation, but I have played it a couple of times since the renovation.  The one major thing that I did notice is that they wedged in a driving range into the back nine, which changed the routing of several holes.  I am sure the practice range has added revenue for the course, but it does create an in course out of bounds and to me seems out of place and takes away some of the character of the course.

As for Brackenridge Park in San Antonio, the course is currently being restored and D.A.'s group is not involved and has not done any prior work to the course.  Brack is schedule to reopen in the late fall.

[Mike_Cirba]

Trey,

Thanks for the update.

I can't imagine them sqeezing a driving range into Cedar Crest.   It wasn't on much acreage to begin with.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for Ole' Brackenridge.

[Evan Fleisher]

Here are a few others of note:

* Sleepy Hollow - Brecksville, OH (Stanley Thompson)

* West Bend CC - West Bend, WI (William Langford & Theodore Moreau)

West Bend CC is a private club

You should add Brown Deer park in Milwaukee. A mini with a rich history and a current presence  ( the Greater Milwaukee open - a pga tour stop )

Duh! (...to me...)...I pulled the wrong name off my list...wanted to put down Spring Valley CC in Salem, WI.  Sorry, my bad Mike!

[Britt Rife]

Mr. Fine:  I am glad that "current condition of the course does not matter."  Given that, I would add Charles Banks' Annapolis Roads 9 holer in Annapolis, Md.  It is in severe disrepair, but a real gem.

And allow me to add to my first post:

After lurking here for a few years now, I am so happy Ran opened up the discussion group.

[Jeremy Rivando]

For the Toronto area:

Lakeview GC  1896  Herbert Strong

[Sean_A]

Mr. Fine:  I am glad that "current condition of the course does not matter."  Given that, I would add Charles Banks' Annapolis Roads 9 holer in Annapolis, Md.  It is in severe disrepair, but a real gem.

And allow me to add to my first post:

After lurking here for a few years now, I am so happy Ran opened up the discussion group.

Mark

I second Britt's recommendation.  This is the only Banks course I have played and thankfully most (all?) of those dopey flat bottom bunkers at the bottom of banks were taken out to leave a super little course. 

Ciao

[BCrosby]

Jekyl Island - the Walter Travis nine.

Forest Hills (Ross) - Augusta

Bill McBride mentioned Hyde Park in JAX. A very interesting course with a mysterious design pedigree.

North Fulton/Chastain (Egan/Maxwell) - Atlanta

[Pete Lavallee]

Rancho Park in LA. Is it Behr or Bell?

[Jim Nugent]

Rancho Park in LA. Is it Behr or Bell?

According to WorldGolf.com, Rancho was designed by William P. Bell and William H. Johnson.

Has anyone mentioned Lincoln Park in SF? 

[Mark_Fine]

Thanks to EVERYONE for some great ideas and suggestions.  I promise to post something in the next week or two summarizing what I have to date.

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