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Mike Mosely

Cambodian Golf/Asian Roll Call!
« on: December 29, 2007, 05:37:02 PM »
Two Qs

What do people know about this Cambodian course designed by Faldo that Brian Saltus won that tournament on last week?  Any good?  How are faldo's designs in general?  Who are his influences?

By the way...do we have any Asian members of GCA?  Anyone hanging out in the Far East?  Russia?

Matt_Sullivan

Re:Cambodian Golf/Asian Roll Call!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 06:37:26 PM »
Hi Mike

I've lived in Asia for about 8 years now. I live in Beijing (been here 3 years or so); previously I was based in Singapore; and before that, for a short time, Tokyo.

I have played golf in a lot of Asian countries, but never Cambodia (although I have been there on holiday). So I can't help you out with the Faldo course there. His course in Beijing is hard, but not particularly inspiring.

Matt

Joe Perches

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Re:Cambodian Golf/Asian Roll Call!
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 07:42:09 PM »
How are faldo's designs in general?  Who are his influences?

I've not played the Angkor course, but I've played Ocean Dunes in Phan Thiet, Vietnam.  Phan Thiet is where a lot of fish sauce is made, an aroma my sweet wife greatly enjoys.  Phan Thiet is also close to Mui Ne, which is a pleasant and quiet ocean area.  Ocean Dunes Phan Thiet is resort, oceanside golf that doesn't take any advantage whatsoever of a normally placid ocean view.  Phan Thiet is golf for a player that might have a business meeting and that might be forced into a game to close a deal.  The golf is OK for the idle and very infrequent golfer, but even though I play infrequently, I wouldn't play it again.

The Angkor golf course reminds me of Ocotillo, a Ted Robinson design.  Come to think of it, Phan Thiet reminds me of a Ted Robinson design too.  

Does that make it great?  Regardless of what Dave Schmidt thinks, no.

Too much water that isn't in play, the shaping and surrounds are a bit dull, the greens are generally uncontoured, very slightly tilted back to front and overly flat, other hazards are placed out of the way of play, the bunkers are not really in play, etc...

It is designed to suit the type of golfer that will likely play there though.  Someone that doesn't bring clubs or likely even shoes but rents whatever happens to be available at the shop, and so forth.

Angkor:
http://www.angkor-golf.com/course.html

Phan Thiet:
http://www.vietnamgolfresorts.com/phanthiet/images/oceandunes_layout.jpg
Phan Thiet aerial

Ocotillo:
http://www.ocotillogolf.com/courses.php
Ocotillo aerial

Micah Woods

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Re:Cambodian Golf/Asian Roll Call!
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 12:39:17 AM »
I live in Thailand and work in East and Southeast Asia.

I get to see many golf courses here but haven't yet seen the Faldo course in Cambodia.

Mike Mosely

Re:Cambodian Golf/Asian Roll Call!
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2007, 05:50:17 PM »
INnteresting stuff, Joe.  I haven't played many robinson designs, so I can't comment on that.  I'm just surprised we dont have as many folks form the pacific rim.  
Guys, what are some of the concepts faldo likes to show case in his designs?  Whar courses are his influences?

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