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Ash Towe

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Golf books you would like to see in 2008
« on: December 30, 2007, 10:48:50 PM »
What golf books would you like to see in 2008.
Here are a few initial ideas-

An updated Confidential Guide-I know this will not happen.

A biography/autobiography of Tom Doak ( Hope this does not make Tom feel too old )

A biography/autobiography of Tom Watson.  Really surprised this has not been done.

A Lifetime of Golf by Bob Huntley.  

Golf, Now and in the Future by Geoff Ogilvy.

Lets start off 2008 with your best and fun ideas.

Patrick Kiser

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 11:01:05 PM »
A book on Colt would be great.  Rerelease of Colt's Essays would be great.
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Peter Pallotta

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 11:17:11 PM »
Ash -

I'd liked a book called "Mentors - Personal Reflections on a Life in Design".

It would be edited by someone like Brad Klein or Lorne Rubenstein, and would have chapters by each of the architects who participate here, and many others besides.

Each chapter-essay would be an architect's reflections on what he'd learned from his mentors/teachers, and would take whatever approach to the question the architect wanted.


I'd like a book called "The Winding Path - The History of Naturalism in Golf Course Architecture".  

I'm not sure who could edit it, but it would be a collection of essays by architects and historians with, again, each chapter taking whatever approach to the question the writer wanted.


I'd like a book called "The Founding Fathers - Amateur Architects and the Birth of Golf in America".

I'm thinking someone like Tom Paul (well, exactly like Tom Paul) could edit it, with chapters being contributed by the experts we have here on gca.com (and others) on Fownes and Crump and Wilson and Macdonald etc.  
 
Peter
 
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Ian Andrew

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 11:21:48 PM »
I'll stick to architecture on this one:

The one I would like the most would be a book on the life and works of Harry Shapland Colt - this one may be in the works as we speak.

A book on the Philadelphia School of Architecture would be a rich subject to cover.

The Influence of the Heathland Quartet would be another.

Mike_Clayton

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 11:42:32 PM »
Ash,

There is a possibility of an Ogilvy/Huggan collaboration - probably a diary kind of book a little like the two Frank Beard did.

The publisher who did the Peter Thomson book is wary of doing golf books - given that one did not do as well as he hoped -  but this one might be more relevent to today's market.

Does anyone have an opinion on how an Ogilvy book would do in America?
Obviously it would only be as good as he is prepared to make it - i.e how much he is prepared to say.

Tim Pitner

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 11:50:11 PM »
Mike,

I've liked Geoff Ogilvy for some time now, even before his U.S. Open win and before I was aware of his appreciation for classic architecture.  That said, my sense is that any book by a current golfer not named Woods, Mickelson or Daly wouldn't be that well-received in the U.S. marketplace.  Of course, some controversial statements by Ogilvy would help sales, but maybe not appreciably.  

Chris Cupit

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 12:03:47 AM »
How about:

1.  Course Management 101--John Daly
2.  How to Win Friends and Influence People on the Golf Course--Rory Sabbatini
3.  Golf with the Girls, 2008--Michele Wie
4.  The Course Pretty--Tom Fazio
5.  The Old Guys Suck--Mike Young :D
6.  The Old Guys Rule--Every other GCA Poster
7.  Why I Hate Blue Blazers--Geoff Shackelford
8.  Add Two--John Vander Borght
9.  Bunkers Aren't Really That Hard--Jim Engh

And number ten....

10.  How to Win friends and Influence People on a Golf Website--John Kavanaugh ;D ;D

Norbert P

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 01:41:18 AM »
 Good ones, Chris.

I'd like to see Thomas's "Golf Arch in America" be reprinted so that it is is affordable again.  The originals are priceless and the reprints are getting up there.

  A .com bookseller is asking 500 clams for James Finegan's "Pine Valley".

I'd like to buy "The Making of Pacific Dunes"

TEPaul's memoirs.

Dan King's "Don Quixote Never Kept Score"




"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Mark_F

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 01:54:02 AM »
Has anyone bought books from either Golf Read or Classics of Golf?

Are they both fair dinkum and reliable?

Phil_the_Author

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 03:13:45 AM »
Since he publishes my books, Classics of Golf is BRILLIANT!

Seriously, he does a good job...

Eric Morrison

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 06:55:41 AM »
The History of Golf  in CT by A. Pioppi
Maybe there could be an appendix about CT breweries near some of these courses! Happy New Year!
It is what it is.

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Golf books you would like to see in 2008
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 07:46:42 AM »
There is a Colt book, isn't there? By Hawtree, I think. Though a revised, well-illustrated biography is well overdue. The market's probably too small.

And, as I've mentioned elsewhere recently, I'd love to see Brad Klein do a book on the life and works of Pete Dye. Hopefully this will happen in the not to distant future. I look forward to it.
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Sébastien Dhaussy

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 08:55:52 AM »
. The FLYNN book by Wayne Morrison and TE Paul

. Geoff Shackelford book on Max BEHR
"It's for everyone to choose his own path to glory - or perdition" Ben CRENSHAW

Steve_ Shaffer

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 09:31:11 AM »
The Mike Cirba/Joe Bausch book on Cobbs Creek.
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Garland Bayley

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 10:45:04 AM »
Golf Course Architecture Design Patterns by Forrest Richardson and Mark Fine.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

David Stamm

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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2007, 10:55:41 AM »
Wayne and Tom's book on Flynn

A book on Colt

A book on heathland golf and it's effects on the first archs in America.

I like Peter's idea of founding fathers. He beat me to it!
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"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Philip Gawith

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2007, 11:12:23 AM »
No disrespect to Mr Doak, but biographies of people who are still relatively young are generally dull - and reserved for "hot' sporting heroes or celebs, cashing in on their moment in the sun! Being the biographer of Tom Doak would also be a challenge inasmuch as his thoughts are so transparent and available - the internet makes life tougher for biographers!

I second all those wanting the book on Colt. When we were at Kennemer the club historian said it was very clear from his correspondence with the club that he had a soft spot for the captain's (?) wife! GCA discussion can only take you so far - it is nice also to know a bit about these GCAs as people.

Dan King

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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2007, 11:42:29 AM »
Slag Bandoon writes:
Dan King's "Don Quixote Never Kept Score"

Can we make it Sancho Panza? I've always been partial to sidekicks and I'm hoping for some product placement schwag from the makers of the cigars.


I have a biography of Colt called Colt & Co: Golf Course Architects by Fred Hawtree. It was published in 1991 by Cambuc Archive. My copy says it is no. 947 of one thousand copies published in June 1991.

Cheers,
Grandan King
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Tony_Muldoon

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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2007, 01:01:17 PM »
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The one book I want to see most is on Fowler.  I would even be willing to help research a project on the man.  

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Sean have you checked out “Heather and Heaven” the Walton Heath history? Easily the best I've seen and Philip Truett would be the man to write the Fowler book.

In it the authors reveal Fowler was given the job of designing WH as he was the brother-in-law of the club owner.  Paying him to design it and then getting him to run the club saved him from bankruptcy!  Until that point he had lived the life of a sporting gentleman to well.
Let's make GCA grate again!

Mark Pearce

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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2007, 01:39:50 PM »
I'll add my voice to those wanting a book on Colt.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Ash Towe

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Re:Golf books you would like to see in 2008
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2007, 08:36:46 PM »
Gentlemen,
Thanks for your thoughts and contributions.

Cleary a book on Colt is a popular choice.

Mike-The Ogilvy/Huggan project sounds promising.

Nick Church

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Re:Golf books you would like to see in 2008
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2007, 08:39:45 PM »
The long rumored coffee-table book on Whistling Straits.

Ian Andrew

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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2007, 09:03:19 PM »
The book on Colt is coming, and so is one on Swinley Forest. I've enjoyed correspondence with both and sent each respective authors on their way with additional information and contacts to help their research.

There are lots of plans, letters, working drawings, typed site directions and construction details around between Hamilton and Toronto. I'm fairly certain that Royal Montreal still has Colt's report for his review of the Dixie course and the Mount Bruno (yes that Mount Bruno) site they were concidering moving too.

Look for both hopefully by the end of the year.