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John Foley

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2018, 10:40:58 AM »
and courses I probably won't play but have a fondness for the spirit which they present (Aetna Springs and Sweetens).

Mike - you need to go to Sweetens . There is a lot written about the experience and sometimes it seems a bit over-hyped but it's not. As a fan of architecture and discovering new courses it's right up there with playing many of the greats for the first time. Get it on a fall day day when the sun is warm, the turf is firm & fast you'll be sold.
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2018, 06:42:21 PM »
Thanks for the kind words, Mike and Terry. John, I could not agree more. Sweetens is not overhyped.


Anthony




Peter Flory

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2018, 02:30:06 AM »
Here is Anthony's picture from what is left of the Hill to Carry on the old Ocean Links



I still use the bucket.  The best way to make a third person picture into a first person picture is to take a screenshot with your phone or tablet.  This changes the file extension on the photo and allows you to post it.


Bret


After seeing that original Cader hole in the other thread today with the ridiculously steep hill to carry and the blind cross bunker over it, the 7th at Ocean Links came to mind.  I know they reference the 11th at St Andrews as the inspiration, but the Cader hole seems like a closer match.  I was curious how much of the hill was still there at Ocean Links after reading the book and this thread.  I didn't know that the military bulldozed it, but that makes sense because it was supposedly a mini mountain and that is clearly gone. 


But here is how it looks on google earth when you magnify the elevations by 3x.  It was neutered, but still distinctly there.  It looks like it is still about 10 feet higher than the ground around it.  I drew a line along the path of the hole that is 258 yards long for perspective. 


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Rich Goodale

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2018, 08:02:43 AM »
A couple of days ago I drove past the two 9-holers on which I first played (Candlewood and Cape Ann) in Ipswich, MA on summer holidays.  Any love for these in the book, or from other golfers on this website?


Rich
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Jeff Churchill

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2018, 01:15:53 PM »
Cape Ann is a nice little Wogan design with a million dollar view of the ocean from the fourth tee.
From 253 yards the 7th hole par 3 is as big a test in the wind as you could ever want.
The course is short but the wind is always a factor
They are working on drainage but still soupy when wet.
Great fried clams in the bar

Candlewood is a peat bog with the tiniest greens on the planet.
We used to play emergency nines there with a few beers and bet on who could stop a ball on those concrete tabletops.
A favorite of kids and beginners it served a purpose.
The former owner Dave Whipple (RIP) was a great guy and promoted junior play.
His heirs want to plow it under for condos but the ground won't perc so they can't build on it.
Not sure what will happen long term.

Rich Goodale

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2018, 02:25:06 PM »
Great to hear your thoughts Jeff


My family had a summer home at Conomo Point, which led me to those two places when I was into my early teens.  Candlewood was a great place to learn to play, and had a few very good golf holes once you got away from the bogland.  Cape Ann was a few higher numbers on the Doak scale, and had the advantage of having John Updike as a player there (before he got into Myopia.....).


All the best


Rich
Life is good.

Any afterlife is unlikely and/or dodgy.

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Brad Tufts

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2018, 03:06:05 PM »

Both CA and CW have had their fans over the years.  I have never played CW (driven by it maybe 100+ times in life), but I did take a spin around CA once.  I remember they had a guy on the first tee that literally heckled each player as they teed up...somebody must have liked it as nobody kicked him out or anything.  I remember CA having some good elevation change too, which was surprising considering much of its surroundings are wide tidal flats.  I'm sure there are times where the greenheads will carry you away too, greenhead bites are nasty...they are bigger, faster and bite harder than horseflies.


Most interesting to me is that Wayne Stiles built 9-holes in the area (very near Candlewood, on the other side of 133) in the late 20s/early 30s with a fantastic name, Labor-in-Vain GC!  It was 2700y par 35 and was located on what is pretty much an island in the tidal flats.  It closed a few decades later just post-WW2, but the name lives on as the road that goes by the 1700s farm house that once was the clubhouse .

In the late 90s, a Myopia member owned the land where the course once was, and Myopia sent a crew over with mowers to get the place into some sort of playing shape.  A member group ended up printing scorecards and embroidering a few Labor-in-Vain polos, and played over a resurrected course for a couple weeks before letting it go back to unmaintained.  For those who are a fan of the NLE courses, this sounds amazing!
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So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Rich Goodale

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2018, 08:47:11 PM »
Great post, Brad!



Rich
Life is good.

Any afterlife is unlikely and/or dodgy.

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John Emerson

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2018, 11:20:39 PM »
I’m trying to upload an clip about ocean links I found in The Courier Journal(1926)...not working out like I hoped
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“There’s links golf, then everything else.”

John Emerson

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2018, 11:43:25 PM »
“There’s links golf, then everything else.”

John Emerson

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2018, 11:43:58 PM »
Does anyone see a picture?
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: To The Nines — Anthony Pioppi
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2018, 01:01:12 AM »
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