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Garland Bayley

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Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« on: November 08, 2007, 09:53:42 PM »
How many architects got to work on one of the best five sites they had ever seen on the first job they work one.

First answer

Ron Whitten.

Any others?
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SPDB

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 09:57:45 PM »
You think The Architect's Club is a Top 5 site?  ;D
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Tom Dunne

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2007, 09:59:53 PM »
Quote from: SBerry on November 08, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
You think The Architect's Club is a Top 5 site?  ;D

Matt Ward to the white courtesy phone, the Garden State needs you!  ;D
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CHrisB

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2007, 10:01:01 PM »
George Crump?
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2007, 10:07:15 PM »
Chris,

Do we know he didn't see five better sites? Some have argued with me here that Pine Valley was not that good of a site.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2007, 10:08:56 PM »
Quote from: SPDB on November 08, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
You think The Architect's Club is a Top 5 site?  ;D

My impression was that Ron's first job was on Erin Hills. Do I have to modify it to his second job? :)
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 10:10:47 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on November 08, 2007, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: SPDB on November 08, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
You think The Architect's Club is a Top 5 site?  ;D

My impression was that Ron's first job was on Erin Hills. Do I have to modify it to his second job? :)


It is not even his second job.  Don't you think the man has earned a bit of respect?  
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Bill Brightly

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2007, 10:15:56 PM »
Seth Raynor, working on National.

Charles Banks, working on Fishers Island.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2007, 10:16:39 PM by Bill Brightly »
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2007, 10:24:50 PM »
I just saw Mike DeVries peeking in...He got a nice piece at Kingsley.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2007, 10:25:51 PM by John Kavanaugh »
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CHrisB

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2007, 10:26:05 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on November 08, 2007, 10:07:15 PM
Chris,

Do we know he didn't see five better sites? Some have argued with me here that Pine Valley was not that good of a site.

Well, I know he cherry picked that site because it was so good for golf, and before the course was constructed A.W. Tillinghast wrote "I have gone over the ground and I have never seen a more interesting stretch of golf country."

That's enough for me.

It is an incredible site for golf.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2007, 10:26:32 PM »
Does Bobby Jones count?
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2007, 10:27:27 PM »
Quote from: Tommy Williamsen on November 08, 2007, 10:26:32 PM
Does Bobby Jones count?

I would say that ANGC is not a good site for golf.  It is too hilly.
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2007, 12:12:44 AM »
I THINK Ron just meant it was one of the top 5 sites he'd ever seen before there was a course on it -- he's seen a lot under construction and in planning while touring with other architects.  If he thinks Erin Hills is one of the top five sites ever, he's nuts.  I wouldn't even put Pacific Dunes in the top five sites ever and Erin Hills isn't close to it.
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2007, 07:17:00 AM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 09, 2007, 12:12:44 AM
I THINK Ron just meant it was one of the top 5 sites he'd ever seen before there was a course on it -- he's seen a lot under construction and in planning while touring with other architects.  If he thinks Erin Hills is one of the top five sites ever, he's nuts.  I wouldn't even put Pacific Dunes in the top five sites ever and Erin Hills isn't close to it.

Tom,

What about Erin Hills would not make it a top 5 site.  It did produce an interesting, dramatic easily walkable course.  I know it doesn't have water but I really did enjoy the view of the Monestary on the hill.  It must have had some truly great soil to have been running so fast in November and you have to admit that Wisconsin is a great place for growing grass.  I would like to know what is missing from the site that might preclude it from being a top five.  I do hope you would only count all of Bandon Resort as one.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2007, 07:18:25 AM by John Kavanaugh »
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Philippe Binette

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Re:Archies getting top 5 sites ever first time out
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2007, 04:58:15 PM »
Tom Doak

I haven't seen Pacific Dunes but

Is Barnbougle Dunes a better site than Pacific Dunes...

If not Pacific must be crazy good
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