[wsmorrison]

I think the book is worth buying.  I know only 1000 were published (by Fore Golf Publications in Essex).  It is just a bit more than 100 pages so there is not a lot of depth with Royal St. George's and Littlestone at 10 pages apiece being the maximum allocation.  The courses covered include:

Royal St. George's
Littlestone
Royal Cinque Ports
Prince's
North Foreland
Whitstable and Seasalter
Westgate and Birchington
St. Augustines
Walmer and Kingsdown
Hythe Imperial
Sene Valley

If you're on the Kent coast, I think you would enjoy a conversation with David.  I only spent a day with him, but he was a delight to be with.

[James Bennett]

Thanks Wayne. (BTW, is that a book worth buying?)

Bob

I think, No.  Tony Muldoon has a copy (which he lent me, and I have returned), and it is disappointing.  Tony can provide you a second opinion.

Edit - I may be mistaken, as I am assuming the book is that on Deal.  From Wayne's later post, it may be a different book.  I can't recall.  Tony will know.

James B

[TEPaul]

It's possible the clubhouse of Fernandina Beach Municipal moved which like everything else just served to make the course better and better. I believe the present clubhouse is a classic pre post modern 1951 top of the line Sears Robuck pre or even post "fab" style. I love it but some think it looks like s... so if the course would move it or rebuild it and consider renumbering the holes too the course would then have virtually no competition at all as the world's greatest hidden gem.

[BCrosby]

Actually Tom a couple of friends were in Fernandina Beach last week. They had a little time and wanted to play golf. After driving around in the piney woods for a while, they found the course, but they couldn't find a clubhouse. They spotted a scruffy old guy watering a green and asked where the clubhouse was.

The old guy turned off the hose, looked around for a minute and said, "Where do you want it to be?"

Swear to God. True story.

Bob

[wsmorrison]

Springdale, the course on Princeton's campus recently moved their clubhouse and in the process significantly altered the routing progression.

[Matthew Rose]

Slightly tangential, but the course I grew up playing changed its routing completely, without moving anything at all or building/destroying any new holes. This happened when I was pretty young so I hadn't really gotten attached to the old routing, but I was told later that that routing wasn't original and was changed from another old routing years before that.

I haven't been back there in 10 years and I wonder if I go back there in another 10 if the routing won't be completely different again.

Courses that, say, flip their nines aren't necessarily uncommon, but I wonder how often clubs will completely re-rout a course without actually making any physical changes to it.

[wsmorrison]

Matt,

Merion East did it after the 1916 Amateur.  The routing for that Am and prior was:

1,2,6,7,4,5,3,8-18

[Patrick_Mucci]

Springdale, the course on Princeton's campus recently moved their clubhouse and in the process significantly altered the routing progression.

Wayno,

How did that turn out ?

When I looked at the plans prior to the project, I thought the net result would be negative.

[Mark Bourgeois]

Tony, I was there a few weeks ago and got the impression it's a done deal.

Bob, not sure if it counts but St. George's built its clubhouse in a place different than Stanley Thompson had planned. Lemme see if I can get this straight: his 18th became the 1st, his 17th the 18th, his 1st the 2nd...

The 9th as a consequence does not return to the clubhouse.

IMHO it makes for a better routing as today's 1st is very inviting and the 18th is a b*llbuster.

Also, the original clubhouse if built would have been in a dry county; the current clubhouse is across the street, in a "wet" county.

It's not a case of relocating the clubhouse post construction, just post-original planning.
Mark

[David Lott]

Sea Island

[Dunlop_White]

Roaring Gap Club (NC mountains)

Donald Ross designed the golf course in 1925 around a small golf shop. Both Hole 9 and Hole 18 return to the golf shop.

However, Hole 4 green and Hole 5 tee were located adjacent to an old, grand hotel -- called The Graystone Inn. During the 20's and 30's, the club used Hole 5 as Hole 1 and Hole 4 as Hole 18 for the convenience of hotel guests ..... against Ross' wishes (I have a letter from Ross to this effect)

For the purpose of this thread, perhaps this may qualify as a relocated clubhouse.

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