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Ran Morrissett

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Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« on: July 03, 2007, 09:18:40 AM »
After the last Open here, my opinion at Carnoustie cratered. There's something incredibly irritating about a course that insists on wrapping itself up in such a tough guy image. If it wants to be one dimensional  :P, then we should judge it so. Holes like the sixth with its eight yard wide area to hit one's second shot were ruined for the 1999 Open. True, all this was the fault of the course preparation for that one week but once it fell, I never gave it a bounce back up...until now.

Rich's Experience Carnoustie Golf Links, his third installment in analyzing the great UK links, helped me re-focus on why I initially liked Carnoustie so much: the quality of its weak holes is nearly unmatched in links golf. Rich's text and unique three-dimensional terrain modeling of the course highlights its world class holes (the second, sixth, fourteenth, fifteenth, and seventeenth). At the same time, and just as importantly, it shows the strength of their supporting cast.

Nobody puts the fourth hole among their dozen favorites on the course but after that, there is little agreement as to those holes that offer the least appeal. A primary reason for the course's enduring appeal is the underrated variety found within its green complexes. Some feature great interior contours (e.g. the third, fifth) others are fantastically situated in hollows (e.g. the first, eleventh). Sometimes, the length of the greens (e.g. the second, thirteenth) give those holes great flexibility in how hard they play with the back hole locations at least a half stroke harder. False fronts (e.g. the seventh, eighth) add intrigue on a daily playing basis. It goes without saying that many greens (e.g. ninth, fifteenth) accept a running approach shot beautifully well.

Let's hope they won't screw up the set-up again - this famous and mighty links deserves better. Information on how to acquire Experience Carnoustie Golf Links from OptimizeGolf (www.optimizegolf.com) is included at the end of the Feature Interview, which is presented on a hole by hole basis. The first question pertains to the first hole, the second question to the second hole and so on. Hopefully, it helps point out various features/playing qualities to be aware of as we all watch it on the telly in a few weeks.

Cheers,

Mike Hendren

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 10:01:36 AM »
Bravo! Rich and Ran.  

The 2nd hole and 5th green are to die for.  Glad to see them, among others, get their props.

Mike
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Adam Clayman

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 10:09:29 AM »
Ran, Slight typo. The year is 2007.

And... Who is Rich? Certainly not Rihc?
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Rich Goodale

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 10:39:02 AM »
Thanks, Mike

It will be interesting to see how each of those holes (and others) play if the wind blows.

Rich

mike_malone

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2007, 10:43:18 AM »
 Is the wind at its mildest in July? It seems that recent Opens have been lacking that element.
AKA Mayday

Rich Goodale

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2007, 11:11:15 AM »
It all depends, Mayday....

Remember Muirfield when Tiger shot 83?

Whatever happens in 2 weeks time I shall blame on Al Gore, who is visiting Britain as we speak.

Doug Wright

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2007, 11:17:46 AM »
Whatever happens in 2 weeks time I shall blame on Al Gore, who is visiting Britain as we speak.

That's OK Rihc--Al Gore's blaming us for everything anyway.

Great Feature Interview--adds a lot of context for us who will be viewing Carnoustie from afar.

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Bob_Huntley

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2007, 01:09:30 PM »
Rihc,

I see the infamous/pompous greenkeper has recently been suspended by the Carnoustie authories for berating a young employee for taking too long on his fag break. What gives, is he still in charge of the preparation for the Open?

Bob

Brian_Ewen

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2007, 02:01:50 PM »
Bob
I am under the impression that the suspension has past ,and Mr Philp is back at work .

Rich, I think thats my favourite "feature interview" .

Great Stuff.

redanman

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2007, 02:25:05 PM »
Nicely done Rhic.  I expect the book to be even more interesting than you talking about it.  I have enjoyed the series so far and hope that they continue.

Loved the comments on #17, what an exquisite bastard it is.  Easily and simply it is the most demanding options-filled tee shot I have so far encountered.

George Pazin

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 02:41:08 PM »
Very thoughtful interview, thanks.

Although, with each book you publish, I fall further behind in my purchases. Someday....
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Rich Goodale

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2007, 04:21:53 AM »
Bob

I haven't heard of John Philp's status, but I'll defer to Brian, who is closer to the scene of the crime.  I will say, that with the weather we are having, they will need all the skill they can muster to keep the course under control.  Reports I do have say that so far they are doing just fine.

Dr. V

I'm glad the 17th confuses you too!

George

Maybe we can barter some T-shirst for books.  Buda V is not that far a way.....

Rich

TEPaul

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2007, 07:12:16 AM »
"I will say, that with the weather we are having, they will need all the skill they can muster to keep the course under control.  Reports I do have say that so far they are doing just fine."

Rich:

What do you mean by that? What kind of weather have you had?

Brian_Ewen

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2007, 07:43:55 AM »
Rich
I was led to believe that the John Philp incident was a month old when it became 'news' ,and of course totally blown out of proportion .

Tom
We are in the middle of an extremely wet summer .

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TEPaul

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2007, 07:49:51 AM »
"Tom
We are in the middle of an extremely wet summer."

Thanks for the info. I'm very sorry to hear that. It's obviously all George Bush's fault.

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2007, 07:55:56 AM »
Great stuff Rchi, would you care to expand on the following?



The front bunker at the thirteenth is a foozle bunker, added fairly recently to stop a well –kent local member from skulling his tee shots onto the green. I for one miss these personalised architectural poofs...
Let's make GCA grate again!

Rich Goodale

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2007, 07:59:03 AM »
Tony

Prior to that bunker being installed, it was possible to just foozle the ball up short, chip up and maybe make a par.  One well-kent local player used to do so with regularity, so they put a bunker in his way.  I like GCA with personality and attitude.

Rich

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2007, 06:29:26 PM »
445 views and how many understand "well-kent"? :-X  Not me. :o

Translation please. ;)
Let's make GCA grate again!

Brian_Ewen

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2007, 07:30:42 PM »
Tony
A kin understand yer state of confusit .

A wid hiv writtin it as 'Weel Kent'

If ye ken fit a meen ?
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2007, 08:23:38 PM »
Great work Rihc.

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2007, 03:31:38 AM »
Tony
A kin understand yer state of confusit .

A wid hiv writtin it as 'Weel Kent'

If ye ken fit a meen ?


Thanks Brian, I'm getting there with a litttle help.
Googling produced this ;D

http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Let's make GCA grate again!

Rich Goodale

Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2007, 03:59:26 AM »
Tony

For further education, try:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/tv/chewinthefat/

Rich

JMorgan

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted New
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2007, 07:11:35 AM »
Sir,

Fine stuff, again.  (Nice price, too.  May I suggest the institution/library market and a series price?)  

Cannot wait to see how 16 plays if the wind is up.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2009, 05:36:28 AM by JMorgan »

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Rich Goodale's Feature Interview on Carnoustie is posted
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2007, 01:21:03 PM »
An excellent interview.  Well done whoever asked the questions to ask them in such a way that it brought out the better side of Mr Goodale!

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