[John Kavanaugh]

BH,

I too would choose a trolley over a caddie if they both were free.  I also would go on a road trip with the Devil over Jesus if I had a shot at forgiveness at the end of the road.  I just believe that it is not in my best interest to always get what I want.

[Ken Moum]

I believe courses should do everything they can to encourage people to walk.

Why?

Because cart-ball and golf are two different games, and everyone without a disability should be encouraged--not forced--to learn about the joys of golf.

I have converted a few cart-ballers, and they all say golf is more interesting.

As always, YMMV.

Ken

[Brent Hutto]

I believe courses should do everything they can to encourage people to walk.

Why?

Because it's better for the golf course (turf compaction, darned paved cart paths), it's better for the golfers (health-wise), it's better for mankind (less resources used, less damage to the environment caused), it's less costly and what the heck, it's also the way the game was traditionally played.

Other than that, it's pretty much a  wash.

[John Kavanaugh]

I am saying that if we allow push carts these men will soon be out of work...  

Barney, I never pegged you for a Luddite.  Surely you employ technology in the paving business that has cost a few men their jobs over the history of the industry?

What's worse:

This:


or this:


Mike

Mike,

Exacty...I spend a part of everyday at work trying to make my labor costs go down.  It is tiring...I don't want to play my games with the same intensity.

[Pete_Pittock]

  My home club is semi-private with 36 holes. The public pays $30 for a power cart and $5 for a riksha. Cart fees are included in member base monthly dues. As more people walk we even mow dew paths.
  Even with this I went to a speed cart because my back has been problematic since 1980 and pushing or pulling a riksha was too much stress for it and I was riding more, gaining weight and putting out $1K for caddy fees where carts weren't available.
  Since I went to the speed cart I have lost all the weight I gained, and more, and can walk 18 without problems. I didn't buy it to save money on rental fees, just to be able to play more golf with less pain.
  Now if only they could design a Riksha which can handle all sorts of bags without becoming more unbalanced than I am won't tip over I would be impressed.
  Bandon allows Rikshas on the green because it saves time and the tire design won't damage them.  
 

[Tim Bert]

I must say this thread really opened my eyes to the world of private clubs.  I've been looking into a local membership and I thought I had asked every question in the book while making my decision.  Based on this thread, I went back and asked if pull / push carts were allowed for walkers (previously thinking this was a no-brainer.)  I got back "No, they are not allowed."

Some on this site will think I'm crazy based on a simple issue like this, but I'm seriously re-thinking my decision at this point.  This particular club doesn't have a caddie program (I'm almost 100% certain anyway.)  The caddie program is the one semi-valid argument I could see for not allowing the push carts.  

I'm definitely more closely aligned with Mr. Huntley's comments and thinking on this issue.  

I'm fully capable of toting my bag around and I probably would do so for a good portion of the year.  At the same time, during the hot humid summers or 30 years from now when I may still wish to walk but may not be in the same shape to carry, this could really be a bothersome policy.  I realize that is their business and they have a good healthy membership number to back it up.  I'm not questioning their right to have such a policy, but it certainly is disappointing in my opinion.

As I said, this thread has really been a learning experience for me.

[John Kavanaugh]

Tim,

When looking at a course to join do not consider any factor beyond 7 years from today.  By then most likely your kids will have dissapointed you, your wife left you or your job been out sourced.

If you can be Huntley be Huntley.  Just don't let life pass you by trying.

 

[Tim Bert]

I appreciate the optisimistic view, John!  All of the reasons you cite are further justification for saving the $16 cart fee or $12 electric push cart fee (somehow the ratio there doesn't add up - clearly taking higher profit on walkers than riders.)  I'll need the cash for bail, alimony, or to pay the bills while I'm looking for a job they'll let me do in the States.  

I just hope my back holds up from the additional strain of carrying my bag should I move forward with this decision, given all the excitement I may get to experience over the next 7 years.

Not daydreaming or aspiring to be Huntley; just wishing the local club allowed push carts like his.

[John Kavanaugh]

I wish my clubs allowed push carts also...I just gave up along time ago expecting to get everything I want.  I have found that most of what I want is not what I need and everything I need is sitting on a silver platter just steps from my front door.  You just have to get out that door and eat it up till you are so full all you desire is to go home and sit on the couch while your wife rubs your belly until you find the peaceful sleep of satisfaction.

[Pete_Pittock]

At a private club in Australia, either in Adelaide or Tasmania some members rode ATVs modified to carry golf clubs.

[Ulrich Mayring]

I paid a princely sum for my high-end push/pull trolley, by far the largest golf investment I ever made. Certainly I will not resort to a measly Sun Mountain Speed Cart or whatever it is that a Golf course operator decides to stock. I play with my own clubs, use my own bag, bring my own balls and of course, should I decide not to carry, my own trolley. The reason in all cases is that my personal, hand-picked equipment fits me many times better than the rental equipment. It is not a question of money, I probably spent more on my trolley than the Golf course on its entire fleet. It's simply a question of having more fun with my own equipment - it adds to the enjoyment of a round.

To me it's a bizarre idea to tell golfers how to play their round. Here in Germany you would be laughed off as a course operator with policies such as cart-only, caddie-mandatory or trolley-forbidden. On the other hand I guess in the USA you would be laughed off at the idea that players without any club affiliation pay higher greenfees. Yet, that is what we have here

Ulrich

[mike_beene]

The fact is I walked a pleasant 18 holes with a push cart in fairly steamy weather.So I paid 10 dollars for it.Even better,I saw several people pushing trolleys who I have never seen out of a golf cart.The more people walk the more the course develops a walkers rhythum(sp?)I cant describe it but I know it when I feel it.

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