[Lloyd_Cole]

What is it with restorations/redoes these days that all the bunker borders look so....I don't know, so....tumescent?

Bob

Excellent use of the word also, given that a bunker is unlikely to ever have masculine associations. And I agree. Puffed up in all senses of the expression.

[Geoffrey Childs]

Wayne

Here is an aerial from before the Fazio work courtesy of Scott B.



Interesting that the Wee Burn member I know is also the same guy who headed the committee that kept on Roger Rulewich for the back nine of the Yale "restoration" (NOT) and is also at Baltusrol to live with Rees' worst (IMHO) "restoration" work. He should know better since he now sees the great work at Eastward Ho as a member too.

There as SO few good examples of anything close to authentic Dev Emmet work that this is a real shame.  This course was the best I've seen.  My old town course was destroyed/wiped free of Dev Emmet years ago.  I'd really like to see St Georges and Huntington this year as I've heard they are very good examples of his work.  I used to walk/tresspass  St Georges as a college student as it was across the street from my dorm.

[jeffwarne]

Mr. Childs,
I think you're missing the point.

first of all what makes you think your friend likes the work at Eastword Ho.
Eastward Ho may be what's standing between your friend and a unique Grand Slam of misguided "restorations" by name architects eager to put their own footprint on a classic.

Besides, now the esteemed members of Wee Burn have a Fazio!

[Geoffrey Childs]

Jeff

Thank goodness that Eastward Ho is in good hands and getting better all the time.

ps- After I criticized his leadership role in the Yale work he became my unfriend  

[corey miller]

I know these terms mean something on GCA, but they mean little within the clubs that are making these decisions.  My club is doing a "restoration" because that was the most palatable way to sell it to the membership. It is not close to a restoration as most on this site would define it.  I prefer to say we are "restoring a classic look" to the golf course.

A previous plan we had from Ken Dye also said he would restore the classic look, but that means little to a membership that let Rees Jones play his games.  Is adding a berm on a redan to not let a poorly hit tee ball roll on honoring the original archtitect?

the fact is it is probably easier for an architect to get a job if they rely on all the idiotic conventional "wisdom" that is spewed out by the average member. Don't mess with trees, lengthen, narrow fairways, in westchester you try to recreate WF. It is very sad.

Yes the clubs are ultimately responsible but the most important decision is who is hired not what they were told to do because the fact is most of the guys doing the good work in this area are not going to take a job with a bad "mission statement".  Funny, we only question the mission statement of the clubs that hire the serial desecraters.

Maybe if they hired the proper pereson for there club they could learn what the proper mission statement should be?  

[jeffwarne]

Corey,
does that mean the restoration is not going as well as you previously hoped?
And if they are merely restoring it to a "classic look",
then I stand by my statements in the other restoration/fad thread.

and don't worry if you don't like it because you'll only have to live with it for 10-12 years before the next fad (which will of course be not recognised as a fad either as it unfolds)

[corey miller]

Jeff

The restoration project is going even better than I would have hoped, but we interviewed and hired the right people that would have only proposed appropriate changes.  I will worry about the restoration "fad" at a later date though.  The club I am a member is Sleepy Hollow (NY) is this where you worked?  

It might be putting the cart before the horse but I think the choices the clubs make in who to interview for the job are more important than any mission statement.

[JohnV]

I was going to post a more up to date aerial, but Google Maps satellite image is the same as the one posted above.  If you have Google Earth, you can see a newer image with a lot more bunkers by flying to the following address:

410 Hollow Tree Ridge Road 06820

[RJ_Daley]

Fazio Design Co., overstuffed upholstery refinishers for 35 years...

[Craig Disher]

Did the club really consider this to be a "restoration" of Emmet's design? The routing is pretty much the same but there have been so many bunkers added - and a few removed - that the course is very different from Emmet's original. It looks to me like it's a restoration of Cornish's renovation of Emmet.

Anyone know who did the construction?

[Patrick_Mucci]

RMD,

I noticed the "fuzzy" treatment to the tops of bunkers shortly after the work at Merion.

On a return visit to Shadow Creek, the same look was installed.

It's apparent in the pictures you posted.

Having never seen the original golf course I couldn't comment on the look of the tops or surrounds of the bunkers, but, the one's you pictured are eerily similar to the revised ones at Shadow Creek.

[Robert Mercer Deruntz]

The previous bunkers looked more natural.  They had quite a bit of flash, but CVC, Garden City, Huntington, Huntington Crescent all had some bunkers with flashed faces.  Also, these new bunkers have changed the look of the mounding.

[Rich Goodale]

Great to see the pictures of an old stomping grounds where I used to bowl and play tennis, participate in mass games of ring-ting-aleevio at midnight with my high school buddies and buddettes, caddied, and shot 80 as a 21 year-old non-golfer.

I remember it as a typical posh east coast club course, but not as good as some others I had played by that time.

Yes, some of the bunkers look like most of Merion did in 2001, but as I said then in this forum about them, let's wait and see.

Anybody looking for instant gratification after a golf course restoration/renovation just needs to get older to see how courses can and do evolve.

[Gary Slatter]

I did not see or play the "older" version.  
It looks great now and hopefully the members also enjoy it, they paid .  If you polled the membership they majority would probably not know who renovated their course.

[RJ_Daley]

I say there old Farnsworth, not even Google could provide me with a definition of; ring-ting-aleevio.  Could you offer an explanation of that activity for us midwestern bumpkins?  

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