[cary lichtenstein]

How is The Quarry?  Any must plays??

[Phil McDade]

Cary:

Good friends of mine, whose golfing taste I usually trust, have very good things to say about Pecan Valley. The late, great Julius Boris won the '68 PGA there at the young age of 48 -- still the oldest player to win a non-senior major.

[JohnV]

I was there last Friday and played Pecan Valley.  The course is a pretty good piece of architecture, but the conditioning was a little weak and the amount of players made for a 5+ hour round even though we teed off at 8:45 AM.  Some strong doglegs, a few blind shots, creeks which cross the fairways just at the point you wished they didn't and some decent greens.

I'll leave it to Tiger to report on The Quarry and Briggs Ranch, both of which he played on Saturday.

[Tiger_Bernhardt]

Cary, you could have lumped both places into one. As John says Pecan Velley is wonderful. It is a shame the maintenance is what it is. It was still real fun to play and not that bad. The Quarry is a straight daily fee and a well thought out routing. The first hole was blind and made no sense for a daily fee, but after that the course took off. It will not set the world on fire architecturally but is fun fun. They overseeded there as well. Briggs Ranch is the real deal. It is a top line Fazio course in every way. I thought I was on a Coore and Crenshaw course for a while. The greens made sense and the traps were strategic and beautiful. The routing is great with a great balance of holes. The courses at La Canterra are like the Quarry but nicer and more visually appealing. Avoid the Dominion. It is a very upscale train wreck.

[SL_Solow]

If you have access, the San Antonio CC was redone by Brian Silva not too long ago.  It is a very enjoyable place to play with a number of interesting holes.

[Jon Spaulding]

I was there in February; played Oak Hills & Pecan Valley. PV was a strong test/good layout, but a worm farm. Oak Hills was very nice, albeit a butchered AWT design. I put up a thread on Oak Hills with a few photos if you want to have a look.

[Evan Fleisher]

If you like Keith Foster's stuff, then the Quarry is for you...I personally really enjoyed the place.  As others ahve said, the course will not light the world on fire, but it was an overall very enjoyable experience...especially the back nine which plays through the actual quarry.

I played Pecan Valley a number of years ago, and although it was once in its hey-day, it is no longer there from a conditioning standpoint.  Too bad, really...

[Art_Schaupeter]

Cary,

I'll throw another course at you for consideration, The Republic Golf Club.  It is located near Pecan Valley, south side of town about 10-15 minutes from the Riverwalk downtown.  It's pure golf set along Salado Creek.  It's a lot of fun to play with wide fairways, multiple options of play, large undulating greens and very good conditions.  I believe the greens, tees and fairways are all overseeded right now.  Should be on anyone's must play list in San Antonio as it is the number one ranked course in all of San Antonio two years running now, according to the annual San Antonio newspaper poll.

If you want a stiff challenge, The Bandit is located in New Braunfels, between Austin and San Antonio.  The Quarry is a fun, unique experience, especially the back nine, which lies completely within the quarry walls.

[SteveC]

Comanche Trace in Kerrville (hour and 15 minutes from San Antonio; Kite-Bechtol-Russell design) is loads of fun, beautiful, and should be very pleasant about now.

[JWL]

Coming on board officially may 7th will be Cordillera Ranch located 30 minutes north of San Antonio in Boerne, Texas.
Private with some very special holes and a course that should prove to be a lot of fun to play.

One hour north of San Antonio in Fredericksburg, Texas is Boot Ranch, a new course that I worked with Hal Sutton.
Very exciting course in some beautiful Hill Country terrain.

Two courses that some might think worth checking out.

[Sam Morrow]

San Antonio really does have some fine courses. The Bandit is worth the drive out to McQueeny, it's about halfway between I-10 and I-35 so you can easily get there from either Seguin or New Braunfels. About 2 years ago they were re-routing a creek through the course. It's a definite play if you are in the area. Pecan Valley is one of my favorites anywhere ever. I can only imagine what it was like in 1968, sadly though the area is not what it once was and it's often overcrowded. I've always wondered why a city like San Antonio with a major economic base being tourism has not done more for the course. It is still very close to downtown. The Quarry is a fun golf course but nothing to really knock your socks off. LaCantera is the same way, though they have some lovely overlooks of San Antonio. If you can get on San Antonio Country Club is a wonderful old course that screams tradition. I love the fact that you walk out the golf shop door, take about 4 steps and you are on the first tee, a shortish downhill par 3. I could probably go on for hours talking about the courses in that area.

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