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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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A Strong course in need of restoration
« on: March 29, 2007, 11:20:07 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 11:20:48 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 11:21:27 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 11:22:06 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 11:22:49 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 11:23:23 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 11:23:57 PM »
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 11:25:50 PM »
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Scott Witter

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 08:20:11 AM »
Robert:

What makes you think it needs to be restored...I think the trees are great ;)  The topography looks quite diverse, it would be good to see more of it.  Clearly in the northeast and the styling is very familiar.  The rocks around the pond and many bunkers have been reworked say that someone has already had their hand in the cookie jar.
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Jason Blasberg

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 08:42:36 AM »
Robert:

I love the look of the place . . . some fairway mowing patterns need to be widened.  Looks like great golfing terrain.  This isn't Canterbury is it?
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Jason Blasberg

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 08:43:54 AM »
Quote from: Robert Mercer Deruntz on March 29, 2007, 11:21:27 PM


I can't stand it when trees take bunkers out of play!!!!  Cut 'em all down and ship 'em to the rain forests!!!
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BCrosby

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 08:59:31 AM »
Am I missing a gene or are there other people who also don't know the name of this course?

Bob
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John Nixon

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 10:30:03 AM »
Quote from: BCrosby on March 30, 2007, 08:59:31 AM
Am I missing a gene or are there other people who also don't know the name of this course?

Bob

Ditto
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 10:39:41 AM »
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Billsteele

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2007, 12:12:22 PM »
It is not Canterbury. We know it is not Engineers. That exhausts my knowledge on the subject.
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mark chalfant

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2007, 07:26:51 PM »
It may be Metropolis in  White plains, NY.  the bunkers, possibly by KEN Dye, seem slightly  bombastic/ overscaled
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corey miller

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2007, 09:09:45 PM »


Never seen Metropolis but if that is Ken Dye that may be his most understated bunker work.   ::)
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Jason Blasberg

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2007, 09:12:23 PM »
Quote from: Steve_ Shaffer on March 30, 2007, 10:39:41 AM
Pick a course, any course:

www.worldgolf.com/golf-architects/herbert-strong.html

Steve, some of those courses listed are not Strong.  Island Hills in Sayville is Tilly and I don't think Islands End in Greenport is Strong either.  Plus, I didn't think he was that prolific . . . but I'm no historian.
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2007, 03:04:34 AM »
This is indeed Metropolis.  I am not sure about who did the bunker work.  I have no problem with the bunkers, unlike my dislike of the Wee Burn job.  The restoration that Metroplis needs is in the playing corridors.  The fairways do not provide the playing angles that would accentuate the brilliance of the greens.  The course could be pretty close to Engineers in greatness.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 06:46:18 AM »
RMD,

The real restoration should start with the removal of the tennis courts and a return of the lost holes that resulted from its installation.

Metropolis is a good golf course.

An aggresive tree management program would benefit the golf course and its condition.
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TEPaul

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2007, 08:36:46 AM »
There're two par 3s in those photos above that look about as similar to one another as any two holes on any golf course I've ever seen. Strong must have liked that concept so much he did it twice on the same course. If that course is one that had "named" holes I think I'd call the second par 3 "Mulligan". ;)
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2007, 09:20:44 AM »
TEPaul,

In person, the two holes don't look, feel or play the same.

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TEPaul

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2007, 11:07:51 AM »
Patrick:

Really? Well, the photos of them sure as hell fooled me. The look and architectural arrangement on them is just about identical.  ;)
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Dave Bourgeois

Re:A Strong course in need of restoration
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2007, 12:05:47 PM »
I thought Metropolis was a Tillinghast.  Did he do a re-design?  Also wasn't Ben Hogan the head pro there for a number of years?
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