New Chicago Aerial: Joe Roseman's Pickwick Golf Club aka Glenview Station Links

« **on:** March 19, 2007, 10:47:56 AM »

When I first found this one I thought I had discovered a Langford Moreau course. Looking into it further I soon found out that was not the case.

« **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2007, 11:06:57 AM »

Parallel Hole Country Club?

« **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2007, 11:22:02 AM »

Quote from: Wayne Morrison on March 19, 2007, 11:06:57 AM

Parallel Hole Country Club?

Side By Each National?

« **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2007, 11:31:14 AM »

Dan, I can easily see how you could think Langford based on bunker shapes and placement.

Put a gun to my head and make me guess... Ross?

« **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2007, 12:37:35 PM »

I was surprised to read that it was not Langford & Moreau.

Therefore, I will guess Bendelow.

« **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2007, 12:49:01 PM »

Willie Park, Jr?

« **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2007, 01:48:02 PM »

Tweedie & Fowler?

« **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2007, 01:49:10 PM »

Dan:

Is it still a 36-hole complex?

Stating the obvious, the bunkering looks far more interesting than the layout. Therefore, I'm thinking it was one of those quickie Sunday jobs by Bendy.

« **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2007, 02:44:43 PM »

None of the above are correct.

The lack of variety and ingenuity in the routing may explain why this architect's first credited course has been significantly remodeled more often than any course I know.

However, the bunkering does look quite good. The similarity to L&M makes me wonder if one of their crews built it.

Here is what it looked like in 1998. Down to 18 holes.

« **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2007, 06:00:17 PM »

boring

« **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2007, 07:03:45 PM »

I'm a bit stumped...any hints?

« **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2007, 10:45:19 PM »

Well, that's a big-ass, limited access highway running along the southern border of the course, so that's got to provide some leads somehow.

And the surrounding housing doesn't exactly look like Cicero.

And hints of a high school/park complex of some type on the left side of the picture with those baseball diamonds.

Northwestern suburbs?

« **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2007, 10:52:35 PM »

Damn you Dan Moore!

I spent the better part of an hour running the google map-satellite out every major artery from Chitown looking for that stretch of highway that bends slightly, with some rec fields west. Did you rotate the N-S E-W axis?

« **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2007, 11:27:59 PM »

Dick:

You beat me to the punch!

To get truly Sherlock Holmesy here, I do think the photo may be aligned correctly -- north is top, east is right, and so on -- because of the nearby ballfields. Almost all ballfields -- and those look like pretty nice ones, with some thought and money put into them -- are aligned so that batters avoid looking to the west, especially, and to some extent the south (as this is a northern hemisphere course, and thus northern hemisphere ballfields, with the sun predominantly on the southern half of the sky -- do I have that right?). None face west, and two of the three avoid facing south.

Thus, I think that's an east-west running highway.

« **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2007, 12:31:24 AM »

...or had Thanksgiving dinner at a relative's house surely located on one of those cul-de-sacs...

« **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2007, 12:57:58 AM »

Those baseball fields in the lower left, and the housing immediately to their right, still exist in the current configuration. But the course has been replaced by another course.
Put it this way: You'll have a dickens of a time finding it!

« **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2007, 09:48:49 AM »

If you like this one, wait till you see the 1998 wide view.

As Tim points out golf is still played on the property just not on the course that was still there in 1998.

1938-39 Wide View

« **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2007, 10:56:16 AM »

Station Golf Links of Glenview

I used Google Earth and originally started yesterday looking for the outline of the 1998 course. I found the 1998 outline with the baseball fields and the cul-de-sacs, but the course was completely different, I wasn't sure.

« **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:25:59 AM »

We have a winner. This is another Joe Roseman design.

Originally called Pickwick Golf Club the 36 hole complex and nearby airport was taken over by the US Navy in 1942. It must have been quite the place in the 1930's with all the races that took place from the airport.

Here is some history on the airbase.

http://www.glenview.il.us/glen/abouttheglen/nas.asp

And a wider view in 1998-99

And today with Tom Fazio's The Glen Club course.

« **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:48:55 AM »

Why the diss on Willow Hill?

« **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:59:27 AM »

Wow, that is some suburban development in just 9 years! I don't know that area at all.

« **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2007, 12:58:58 PM »

And to think Wayne was picking on his Philly homeboy.

Interesting that the bunker styles are very different between this and Wilmette. I see another distinctkly different style in another Roseman course I will post soon. I still see a strong L/M influence in the fairway bunkering at Pickwick.

Here is Westmoreland which C&W cite as Roseman's first course. I believe I posted this before. Langford, Tillinghast, Diddel, Killian and Nugent and Hills have all done work on this course. A few of them may have already been there by the time of this aerial.

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