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Matthew Hunt

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Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« on: December 19, 2006, 11:32:06 AM »
"Lawrence Donegan
Wednesday November 29, 2006
The Guardian


Donald Trump, the real estate developer, television star and enthusiastic amateur golfer, wants to build a golf resort in the north-east of Scotland. Like the man himself the project is not modest: an eight-storey hotel, 950 holiday homes, 37 "luxury" lodges and two courses fit to stage a major championship. "Our ambition is to one day host the Open Championship," Neil Hobday, the project director for Trump International Golf Links, said yesterday.

Whether the R&A can be persuaded to stage the oldest major championship on a new course is a subject for future debate but the Trump organisation faces more immediate problems as it seeks to transform 1,400 acres of coastline north of Aberdeen into a golfers' paradise.
Aberdeenshire council is due to decide on the planning application by next summer and objections to the proposals are mounting, with environmentalists claiming the project does not represent an appropriate use of land designated as a site of special scientific interest. "Basically this is just another real estate development for the benefit of Mr Trump and his rich friends," a spokesman for the Scottish Green Party said yesterday. "Scotland doesn't need another golf course. If Donald Trump wants to invest money in Scotland he could do a lot worse than put it into much needed renewable energy schemes in the north-east."

The stretch of coastline chosen by Trump is home to hundreds of thousands of seabirds, according to the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. "There are no endangered species in this area but this is an SSSI and as we would with any development in an environmentally sensitive area we will be keeping a very close eye on this project," a spokesman said.

Scotland's leading golfers, however, have given their support. "I know Donald and he's a very keen golfer. His money coming to Scotland can only boost Scotland," said Colin Montgomerie. The 1999 Open champion, Paul Lawrie, a native of Aberdeen, agreed: "If Mr Trump is willing to put up that kind of money then it has got to be a good thing." The Trump organisation claims its plans will create more than 400 jobs, so it is hardly surprising that the region's economic development organisations are supporting the scheme.

When plans for the resort were made public this year the estimated cost was about £300m but as the scale of the resort has expanded so has the budget, to about £1bn. "That is a lot of money but the size of the investment we are prepared to make shows how committed we are to this project," Hobday said. "To make this work as a viable business model there needs to be an element of real estate involved but really we want people to know that this projects starts with golf and ends with golf. We aim to build the greatest golf course in the world."

Trump, who visited the site this year, cited his Scottish heritage - his mother is from Stornoway - as one of the main reasons for choosing Scotland, adding that he had never seen such a spectacular setting for a course.

Trump owns four exclusive golf resorts in the US but his plans for Scotland may be overly ambitious, according to a leading figure in the world of golf-course architecture.

"You can't deny Donald Trump is a showman but golf courses are not his strongest point," said Geoff Shackelford, author of The Future of Golf. "From what I've seen of this project he has his hands on a beautiful stretch of links land, so maybe that will rein in his ego. I ain't holding my breath, though.""


I like Geoffs comment! :D
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Joel_Stewart

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Re:Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 02:17:03 PM »
Perhaps he could put Fazio II into rehab like Miss. USA

cary lichtenstein

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Re:Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 03:00:12 PM »
Maybe Donald could fire himself :o
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Adrian_Stiff

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Re:Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 03:10:58 PM »
Maybe Donald could fire himself :o
Planning permission is becoming so very difficult these days in the UK. Mr Trump's money is unlikely to win this one I fear. I dont know what its like elsewhere but over here its all about ticking the 10 boxes and some of those boxes are priceless.
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Robert Thompson

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Re:Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 07:36:23 PM »
I'm told by someone in the know that the dunes the course would be intermingling with are in motion -- moving a few meters per year. The concern would be that without extensive dune stabilization, Trump could lose entire holes within a few years.
Interestingly, one planner I spoke with who is investigating the project made the suggestion that perhaps Trump build several alternate holes that would be put in play as dunes take over in play holes.
The hole concept sounds crazy to me.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Trump meets opposition over Aberdeen
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2006, 08:15:51 AM »
Robert,
dunes 'move' because they are made of 'movable' material - Sand. The best way to stabilise this material is, guess what? - To plant it with GRASSES! Rather handily, that tends to be the surface of choice of our favourite game.
Re Planners discussing dunes. What the average UK Town and Country Planner knows about dune stabilisation couild probably be written upon, well, a grain of sand. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

FBD.
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Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

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