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Jim Dawson

Where to play in Scotland
« on: November 13, 2006, 05:47:06 PM »
We have a group going to Scotland in June of next year. We have a free day and are looking for a place to play. We will be staying in Prestwick. and are already playing Prestwick, Turnberry and Troon on the west coast.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JD
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ForkaB

Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 05:50:06 PM »
Western Gailes.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 05:56:06 PM »
Jim,
must I really remind you...!?

http://www.kintyreexpress.com/golf_safaris.htm

cheers,
FBD.
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David_Tepper

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 06:00:33 PM »
If you up for the journey to Machrihanish, there is a passenger ferry service that now runs from Troon to Campletown, on the Mull of Kintyre. From Campbeltown, it is a short drive to Machrihanish.

I think you can make it over, play a round at Machrihanish and get back to Troon in the same day. However, you would be well advised to spend the night in Machrihanish/Campbeltown and play Machrihanish at least twice.

Check out: www.kintyreexpress.com  

I see Martin has gotten here first!
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 06:03:46 PM »
Matters not a jot, Mr T.
The more votes for Mach the better!

FBD.

Edit: Although I know a certain surgeon who wants to keep it all to himself...
« Last Edit: November 13, 2006, 06:05:01 PM by Martin Bonnar »
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michael j fay

Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 06:11:52 PM »
Add Western Gailes, drive to Carnoustie, to Cruden Bay and the Nairn and Dornoch.

If you have additional time get to North Berwick, Gullane # 1 and #2. Play the nine holer at Musselburgh with wooden shafted clubs (they wil rent them to you).

If you go to St. Andrews make sure you get to Crail.

Go back to Dornoch, buy a small business and live happily ever after.
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Chris Moore

Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 06:15:15 PM »
I second Western Gailes, which is probably my second favorite course in the UK that I have played, right behind North Berwick West Links.  I also came away pretty impressed by Dundonald, which sits right next to Western Gailes.  Dundonald is part of the Loch Lomond family and is a big, brawny modern links course designed by Kyle Phillips of Kingsbarns fame.
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Paul Jones

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 10:31:32 PM »
I would recommend Muirfield.  Takes more work to get on, but it is worth it.  Also, the lunch is awesome but bring coat and tie.  Only design I have played that is Clock-Wise then Counter Clock-Wise.  Wind is always changing.
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Matthew Schulte

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 11:07:23 PM »
Quote from: Martin Bonnar on November 13, 2006, 05:56:06 PM
Jim,
must I really remind you...!?

http://www.kintyreexpress.com/golf_safaris.htm

cheers,
FBD.

Martin:

Once in Campbeltown do you take a taxi to Machrihanish or does Kintyre Express offer a shuttle service?
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Kevin Pallier

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 04:00:39 AM »
Put me down as another who recommends Western Gailes though I haven't done Machrihanish
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 04:11:20 AM »
Quote from: Matthew Schulte on November 13, 2006, 11:07:23 PM
Martin:

Once in Campbeltown do you take a taxi to Machrihanish or does Kintyre Express offer a shuttle service?

Matthew,
the fine crew of the good ship Kintyre Express will call ahead and book the taxi for you. The taxi trip takes about 10-15 minutes and costs about £15.

FBD.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 06:21:45 AM »
western gailes is yer man... all other suggestions involve a longish drive... western gailes is an absolutely first rate course next to those other three and tends to get overlooked because of it...   :)
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Andy Scanlon

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 08:22:10 AM »
If you want variety, I agree with the recommendations for Western Gailes.  If you can't get on WG for some reason, you could do alot worse than playing Prestwick, Turnberry or Troon again on your free day.
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David_Tepper

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 09:17:35 AM »
redanman -

I was NOT implying Jim Dawson (or anyone else) would take the ferrry from Troon (the village) to Campbeltown, play Machrihanish, take the ferry back to Troon (the village) and then actually play a round at Troon (the golf course) in the same day. That would be a very long day, by anyone's standards.

I was simply noting that, because of the Troon-Campbeltown ferry, one can now make Machrihanish a "day trip" from the west coast (Troon-Prestwick-Turnberry) of Scotland. I did suggest spending the night in Machrihanish to play the course a 2nd time.

DT      
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Matt MacIver

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 11:00:05 AM »
In doing my homework for our trip next May, I found Gleneagles is probably not more than a one hour drive.  Three courses: two classics and a Nicklaus that's hosting the {2014?} Ryder Cup.  

Personally I would try to make W. Gailes and/or Machrahanish (and Machrie?) work first, but it would be worth looking into.
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David_Tepper

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2006, 11:52:00 AM »
redanman -

I agree with you. I am a big advocate of "less is more" in terms of golf travel in Scotland. I think playing 4 courses twice over 8 days is a far better experience than playing 8 different courses in 8 days.

However, there are those who like covering a lot of ground and seeing as much as they can. God bless 'em!

DT
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Bill_McBride

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2006, 07:42:17 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jones on November 13, 2006, 10:31:32 PM
I would recommend Muirfield.  Takes more work to get on, but it is worth it.  Also, the lunch is awesome but bring coat and tie.  Only design I have played that is Clock-Wise then Counter Clock-Wise.  Wind is always changing.
 Paul, it's not in Scotland, but Sonoma Golf Club in California has a very similar routing.  The front nine goes 3/4 of the way around the perimeter on the outside, clockwise; the back nine circles back inside the front counterclockwise.
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Yannick Pilon

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Re:Where to play in Scotland
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2006, 08:44:59 PM »
Just a thought:

What about Dundonald, right next door to Western Gailes?  As anyone played there, and was it worth it?

I tried to go and see it last year but was turned down by the security guard at the gate....  It seems I did not have a secured tee time, so I was not allowed to go to the club house!

But my choice would go to Western Gailes, especially if you have only one spare day.

YP
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