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Wayne Wiggins, Jr.

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Rancho Bernardo
« on: November 13, 2006, 08:19:27 PM »
I'm playing Rancho Bernardo on Friday, in lieu of Aviara, La Costa, and Torrey Pines (and can't make it to Barona and back in time to catch my flight).  Is this a good choice?  Looking at the website, they claim a Billy Bell design which has been renovated/restored.  Does anyone know who did the recent work and when?  Any Bell left on the property?
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David Stamm

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 08:38:32 PM »
Wayne, I'm not sure who performed any "restoration" there (probably Robinson), but the course is a William F. Bell (son of Billy) course, also known as Bell, jr. I've seen the course but have not played there. Considered good by the locals, but I don't think anymore than that. Maderas, which is right down the street is fun. It's I believe a Troon course (which means expensive) but has a few pretty good holes. Johnny Miller design. (supposedly)
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Tom Jefferson

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 08:40:21 PM »
I don't know if RB is a good choice, for it's been 40 years since I've seen it or played it.  But it was one of the venues for the San Diego Open (as well as SDCC, Singing Hills, Stardust CC) in the 60s, and the development was one of the very first in the north county, back when San Diego was really growing, north and east.

I have no memory of it being anything special.  And until now didn't know it was a BB design.  Now that I think back, the bunker shapes were alot like the bunkers at Sandpiper a BB design done in 71-72.

Tom
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Neal_Meagher

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 09:38:32 PM »
David Stamm,

I'm happy that you feel that Maderas is fun.  That was part of the plan all along; tough to do, though, on such a severe site.

Also, it was actually designed by my former firm and Johnny Miller acted as the player-consultant hired by the owner.  Johnny was there once before construction, three times during construction and finally at the opening where he went around and hit a few shots with each group which was a nice touch.

Troon actually markets it as a Robert Muir Graves/Johnny Miller course...to their credit I must say.
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David Stamm

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 10:06:22 PM »
I would think that that site was difficult to work w/ on certain portions of the property, Neal. I've only played it once, but I've heard a few people state that they thought the greens were a bit severe in places. It's been a while since playing there, so I can't say I agree. I do remember 5 being really tough. I tried to carry the bunkers on the left and didn't make it. I really liked 6. I'm glad some architects today aren't afraid of the short par 4. I think if someone thinks it's too short, the 7th more than makes up for it! I remember that playing really long. I would say overall, Neal, it's one of the best choices to play in San Diego.
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Joshua Pettit

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 10:42:11 AM »
Wayne,

If you play Torrey Pines I would recommend playing the North as oppose to the South.  You’ll have more fun and experience a better golf course, plus you’ll save a bit of money.  Rancho Bernardo isn’t anything special.  The San Diego region lacks in its selection of public golf courses.  

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David Stamm

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 11:22:39 AM »
Can't argue w/you there , Josh. We lack in good private courses as well. I concure w/ you about the North. I'm in the minority around town here, but I think the North is better as well and I have more fun there too.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 11:31:25 AM »
The restaurant at Rancho Bernardo Inn- El Bizcocho- is very good.I don't know about the golf course.
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Aidan Bradley

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Re:Rancho Bernardo
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 12:54:10 PM »
Wayne,

I have photographed RB on two occasions. Below are a few of my favourites.

Aidan.











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