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John Foley

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Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2006, 02:14:53 PM »
We have one here in Rochester that was abandoned earlier this year. The Belfry (by Dave Thomas) not sure of it's relationship to the place in England. It had a troubled develeopment (owner passed away) and was sold to a devleoper from Carmel. He told the 100 or so members that their deals would have to be vastly restructured, they so no and he walked away. If you drive down the Thruway, it just to the east of Exit 46.

I also looked around Coudersport PA a few years ago for Ree's Jones course he was building for folks from Adelphia Cable who ended up in jail, but had no luck.

James Morgan - Wher in Upstate is place in the pics?
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Andrew Balakshin

Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2006, 07:07:34 PM »
There is a course in Fiji called Pacific Harbour that was basically abandoned a while ago. It was designed by RTJII and was done first class but there was a coup in the country and all the Japanese investors backed out I heard. When I played it, it was just like out of Jurassic Park II when they go back to the overgrown dinosaur park. Everything was in shambles and a Fijian guy was there on the first tee that wanted a couple dollars from us but we were skeptical he had anything to do with the course.

The classy entrance road was completely overgrown and the clubhouse was all boarded up. We managed to get inside the clubhouse and look around and it was super classy but was all falling apart. There was a really nice locker room with all these wooden lockers and stained flipped over couches. There were even all these pictures on the walls from big tournaments that had been held there. The fairways on the course were mowed (if you can call it that) and I was told it was done by people that lived in the couple of houses around the course that wanted to play it. You literally couldn’t find your ball on the fairway and we gave up after a couple holes. The flag sticks were actually twigs with rags tied to them!

I managed to get back there last year and the course was apparently sold to this guy that wants to fix it up. They renamed it The Pearl Country Club or something. It was looking a ton better but still needed work done. I’d be interested if anyone has been back there since.

There is also that Discovery Harbour one on the Big Island of Hawaii. It was designed by RTJ Sr. but is totally out of commission. Empty swimming pool and the whole bit.

Andrew Balakshin

Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2006, 07:16:31 PM »
These pictures were in the clubhouse. Creepy eh?




A.G._Crockett

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Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2006, 07:51:18 PM »
Oyster Bay in / near Myrtle Beach, at last report, was in the state you are requesting.

...Adam, I don't think that Oyster Bay is the course that you are thinking of.  I played it in March and it is one of the most played courses in MB.  I may be wrong but I doubt that they are closing it.

It isn't Oyster Bay; it's Marsh Harbour.  Also abandoned in Calabash, NC is Ocean Harbour.  Nothing built on either course; just abandoned...

I heard an interesting story about how Marsh Harbour, a very good Dan Maples course came to be abandoned, involving Donald Trump and Larry Young (the developer of The Legends, Barefoot Landing, and True Blue/and Caledonia) as well as the daughter of Odell Williamson, the owner of the land that both Marsh H. and Ocean H. are on.  I can't vouch for the story, so I won't tell it, but it is a shame to see two of the better properties in that area of the world growing over.  When you leave Calabash on a deep sea fishing trip, you see the clubhouse for Ocean Harbour, but otherwise it isn't recognizable as a golf course at all.
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Mark Hissey

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Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2006, 11:49:40 PM »
This has to be one of the most fascinating threads that I have ever seen on here. Superb stuff.

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2006, 12:34:47 AM »
Here's another one of much interest for us LA area purists, which could have been at one time the beginning to our answer for Bethpage Park, only it was privately owned and operated.

Sunset Hills was laid out by Billy Bell consisting of two 18 hole course with plans for an 18-hole executive and 9-hole beginner course. Situated in Leimert Park, just due east of where the Olympic Village was located for the 1932 Olympics, the area was probably famous for something a bit more bizarre in LA history. Less then two blocks away from the club's driving range, on the morning of January 15th, 1947 a woman was walking her daughter to a nearby shoe store had came across the horrifying bisected human remains. This discovery would be come to known as LA's most popular unsolved crime, The Black Dahlia Murder, and it represented the classic tale of young girl leaves home to stirke it big in Hollywood only to find complete failure and ultimate demise.

I'll apologize here for bringing this into play because it has little to do with golf architecture, much less abandoned golf courses, but in Los Angeles, much of the courses lost were due to not just the depression and world war, but also redevelopment. And for a LA person like myself, I'm a fanatic for it's history--just like all good Angelenos.

Both my parents were both raised not far from Leimert Park, almost in the shadow of L.A.'s Memorial Coliseum, and since childhood my family has been enthralled in the possibilites of "whodunnit." My 2nd uncle, Bernerd, was LAPD cop, and his best friend Bill Lester who was an LAPD detective, had been somewhat involved in the case.

I will never forget the tales my Uncle and Bill Lester would tell all of us on summer nights at my grandparents, the look on their faces describing what the remains looked like in the morgue where Beth Short's body lay in waiting, looking for further clues on who could have committed such a ghastly crime. (like all police officers in those days of Noir LA, they all were interested and the two of them had managed to get a viewing at the morgue.)

While the recent movie has renewed some interest in the case. (the movie was a complete and utter failure in my opinion. I was quite disappointed that a movie about the Black Dahlia wasn't about the Black Dahlia but more of a fictionalized account that was almost pornographic with characters that never even existed.

So in Leimert Park, us Angelenos have two things to mourn and still provoke interest about, The Black Dahlia and Sunset Hills. While one is a somewhat gruesome and tragic ending, the need for great, affordable golf in Los Angeles is still felt from the passing of Sunset Hills.

« Last Edit: October 30, 2006, 12:36:41 AM by Tommy Naccarato »

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:abandoned golf courses
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2006, 08:00:06 AM »

While talking to Phillip Truit he said well of course Bembridge isn’t the only abandoned course on the Isle of Wight.  

At the western extremity there’s a famous scenic structure called the Needles where the cliff have collapsed leaving chalk stacks in the sea. On top of the land was once a Golf course and Phillip says on the ground you can easily make out tee and green sites.


I walked from the car park to the tip last Easter but stayed at a level about 100 below the plateau. Still a couple of hundred feet up,  it was so windy my wife suggested we put the dog on the lead for it’s safety, it must have been one of the most exposed GC anywhere.  You can make out gorse and possibly a few more golf like features.



Anyone have information on this course?
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