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Jason Blasberg

Striped 150 poles?
« on: October 26, 2006, 07:26:20 PM »
The revised Highland Links review got me thinking, how many true links have the striped 150 poles?  Are they helpful to align the center of the fairway, especially with tumbling terrain and lots of semi-blind shots where the center of the fairway may be hard to see?

Tumbs Up, Thumbs Down, Indifferent, any why?

Adam Clayman

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 07:28:50 PM »
Up. They guide the virgin and when placed at 150 tell the faster player what not to hit.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Garland Bayley

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 07:31:55 PM »
Up. I have more trouble judging distance off the tee than into the green. They help prevent me from making a bad club selection on the tee. Although, I must say that Forrest tricked me with some holes having a red and white stripped pole rather than a black and white stripped pole.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Adam Clayman

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 07:36:37 PM »
I agree Garland. When they use the 200 or 250 barber pole, the color is hard to tell. Impossible for people who are challenged by color. If they'd just use the 150, or, make the "other" yardage poles solid in color, i'd know sooner that i'm a long frickin way.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Matthew Schulte

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 07:43:12 PM »
Up for public / resort courses as they do speed up play.  However, I would hate to see a members course adopt them as I believe they detract from a course visually.  

Tim Leahy

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2006, 07:46:55 PM »
Hate em, visually horrible and usually misplaced, I also actually hit one and bounced into the rough once. A flat marker gets the job done.
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Brian_Sleeman

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2006, 08:26:48 PM »
Although at least one cost me several yards on a tee shot, I like them, as I don't even have to bother looking for a sprinklerhead when they're around, and I notice a lot of others don't either.  Once you see that reference point, you're ready to go.

Visually, I think if they're done right they don't detract at all.  Just a nice, classy, black and white post about three feet off the ground.  Flat markers to me are usually worthless as they require incessant walking around, and if they don't, they're usually too big and are therefore more visually distracting and gawdy than a simple 150-pole.

cary lichtenstein

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 09:12:35 PM »
Up on public courses for first play. They speed up play.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Bob_Huntley

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2006, 09:53:00 PM »
They should be "cryit doon."

Ugly and affront to all and sundry. we have them at MPCC and they are an abomination.

Bob

Jim Thompson

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2006, 10:18:59 PM »
Although these poles can be unsightly to some they are extremely honest and aid the recreational player to great ends.  I would probably be against them in a private setting, but for public or semi-private play they are a must.  They not only benefit speed of play but provide the infrequent guest with a reference point and help to eliminate the need(public desire for instant gratification) for full visibiltiy off the tee and help to prevent the dumbing down of architecture.  I love ours as do our customers, but we also ban electronic devices of any kind and provide all players with a complimentary stroke saver style yardage guide and tourny style pin sheets on a daily basis.
Jim Thompson

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2006, 10:19:21 PM »
Jason,

They seem to work extremely well at Due Process Stables, with the racing theme and the distance polls.

I'd like to hear from others who have played Due Process
« Last Edit: October 26, 2006, 10:19:38 PM by Patrick_Mucci »

Jim Adkisson

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2006, 11:04:22 PM »
Though I like one Barber Pole signifying 150 (or 100 yds on a short hole) to speed up play and define the center of play for those who might not be overly familiar with a course, one of our local tracks, Wildwood has poles for 150 and 100 on all par fours and adds a third pole at 200 yds on the par 5's...An Absolute Abomination!  :P

Brad Klein

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2006, 08:23:04 AM »
Greatest invention since cheese bread. We use them at Wintonbury Hills; they look great, orient golfers, speed up play.

John Foley

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2006, 08:28:31 AM »
AS someone who plays alot of courses once, I love it. For the reson's everyone states, helping the orientation of the golfer and speeding play makes them well worthwhile.
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Tim McManus

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2006, 09:09:13 AM »
Jason,

They seem to work extremely well at Due Process Stables, with the racing theme and the distance polls.

I'd like to hear from others who have played Due Process

They are perfect at Due Process, which is as exclusive a club as any in the metro area.  I had the pleasure of playing there in less than 3.5 hours on a busy day and I think they were a big part of the great pace of play.

I will never understand why people think they are ok for public players but private players should turn their noses up.  My perfect course would have a 150 barber pole, a red 100 yard plate, a blue 200 yard plate and no other distance marks, golf carts, or electronic devices.

Peter Galea

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2006, 09:30:48 AM »

They should be "cryit doon."


What he said.
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Craig Disher

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2006, 09:34:59 AM »
Of all the schemes to help golfers orient themselves on the course this is the least offensive.  The poles also reduce the time spent wandering around looking for a sprinkler head.

tlavin

Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2006, 10:22:30 AM »
Leave 'em at the barber shop.

Bruce Katona

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2006, 11:41:06 AM »
150 yard poles speed up play at both public and private facilities............the faster the group ahead of you gets around, the more you enjoy your round, regardless of score...............THUMBS UP !!!!!!!!!

Bob_Huntley

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2006, 11:47:29 AM »
I am truly astonished at the positive response to these completely artificial guideposts. For the cognoscenti on this board that rail against some miniscule defect in a bunkering that does not look 'natural' and yet accept striped poles, is mindboggling.

What is wrong with a properly placed bit of foliage?

Bob

Jim Thompson

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2006, 01:46:19 PM »

What is wrong with a properly placed bit of foliage?

Bob

Bob,

A couple things:

The foliage is rarely properly placed, most times to close to the fairway.  Often becomes over grown and detracts from better designs that encourage better angles from the sides of fairways rather than the middle.  Lacks the status of being a movable obstruction thus hindering options.  Now if you are just playing freeway golf with greens that have bunkers on their front right and lefts, plant all the little blue spruces you want.  I'd prefer open spaces, active angles, and an honest little pole.

Cheers!

JT
Jim Thompson

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2006, 01:49:42 PM »
Bob Huntley,

I'd prefer nothing, no bushes, no markers, no range finders, just my lousy eyesight and feel, but, you and I are dinosaurs.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2006, 02:07:38 PM »
Bob Huntley,

I'd prefer nothing, no bushes, no markers, no range finders, just my lousy eyesight and feel, but, you and I are dinosaurs.

The poles are for the one time and out unaccompanied players..I don't think you or Huntley fit that demographic.

Bob_Huntley

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2006, 02:15:27 PM »
Bob Huntley,

I'd prefer nothing, no bushes, no markers, no range finders, just my lousy eyesight and feel, but, you and I are dinosaurs.

The poles are for the one time and out unaccompanied players..I don't think you or Huntley fit that demographic.

John,

Then why the f*@# do we have them at MPCC?

Bob

ChipRoyce

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Re:Striped 150 poles?
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2006, 02:18:54 PM »
I can't say I'm bothered by them.

What I'm surprised about is the disappearance of colored stakes at 100, 150 and 200 which I used to see back in the 80's and 90's. Better than searching for sprinkler heads and the stakes are off in the rough, not in the line of play.

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