Tuhaye at the Talisker Club- Park City, UT

[Evan_Green]

Has anyone visited this course? - looks pretty interesting.

http://www.taliskerclub.com/golf.html

[Mike_Sweeney]

If there is ever a Tom Fazio of a ski resort, it is Deer Valley! Everything is perfect, snow, grooming, lodges..... Too perfect for me, but a nice place. The course and club look like a nice family place.

10 days in Park City - 8 at Park City, 1 at Deer Valley, 1 at The Canyons but I have not seen the renovation.  

10 days in Utah, 4 Snowbird, 3 Alta, 2 Park City, 1 Solitude

[Brad Swanson]

Mike,
   Why bother to leave Little Cottonwood Canyon (unless you do the Interconnect)?
 In Wardian terms, 10 days in Utah: 4 Snowbird, 3 Alta, 2 Snowbird, 1 Alta.

Cheers,
Brad

[Mark Leo]

Played the course about a month ago.  Very interesting front nine with some very strong holes, good use of the natural features, and outstanding views. As expected, very rolling terrain, with very good green sites.  The 7th stands out as a very difficult uphill (close to 500 yds) par 4.  Green site up in a little hidden corridor type green.  Back nine was very disappointing, with redundant dogleg right par fours (3) to start, lots of houses, and then the ridiculous split fairway holes( 3 of those as well) which are reminiscent of O'Meara's crazy holes at TPC-Valencia.

[Tommy_Naccarato]

Sweens,
If the resort is the Tom Fazio of Ski Resorts, I bet you the snow they use there is some really expensive European stuff imported from the Swiss Alps that they specially fly in on custom built 747's with the cost past on to the customer/guest.....

Do the urinals have 24K gold hardware? This to would be further proof. I bet you its the best urinal ever built that last all of two years before it has to be replaced by another.

[Michael Robin]

Mr. Sweeney -

Have you seen Empire Canyon at Deer Valley? Have you been in the trees at DV after a big December snow? Also, no better place than the back side of The Canyons after a big dump. Fresh tracks there are amazing. I think these things might adjust the Park City distribution to
PC-4, DV-3, TC-3.

Golf wise, has anybody seen the Nicklaus course at Promontory the Ranch Club? There are 3 really good "Clubs" in the Park City area, but no great golf courses. Lots of developing going on, but nobody has gotten it right on the design front yet. Glenwild is a highly mediocre Fazio, the Dye course at Promontory is on an awful piece of land for golf, and O'Meara's routing was doomed from the start at Tuhaye with a limited site for good golf holes - much like his predicament at TPC Valencia. Keep hoping to see Doak or C & C get a project up there, 'cause there aren't many better year round places to be than Park City.
 

[Mike_Sweeney]

Also, no better place than the back side of The Canyons after a big dump.

I had heard that The Canyons was pretty good. I only skied it when it was Park City West, and that end of Park City area had little snow. What ski area in Utah is not great after a big dump? See my inclusion of Solitude. Skied it one day in 18 inches of new pixie dust powder.

However, Brad makes a pretty good point about Little Cottonwood. 500 inches of snow is a bad year and the terrain over there makes Ballyneal look like a sod farm in Florida!!

PS. Just kidding Clayman.

[Brad Swanson]

However, Brad makes a pretty good point about Little Cottonwood. 500 inches of snow is a bad year and the terrain over there makes Ballyneal look like a sod farm in Florida!!

In the sad but true department, during the 5 years I was living in Colorado, my best day of skiing was the 1st full day of the 2004 Olympics at Snowbird.  Clear skies, 18-24" of pristine pow, and the place nearly to ourselves.  Taking a nearly empty tram to the top was somewhat eerie/surreal.

Cheers,
Brad

[Matt_Ward]

Gents:

I have had the opportunity to play the original 18 at Promontory by Pete Dye -- the new Nicklaus course is set to open early next year, if my info is correct. I liked what Pete did there and the layout does offer a number of unique holes -- albeit Pete has factored in the elevation with some unique rolling terrain.

Better yet is the The Club at Glenwild -- also in Park City. IMHO, it's the best course I have played in the Beehive State and that includes a fair number of the main competitors.

Michael R: -- I'd especially enjoy having you elaborate on your panning of Glenwild. I know the course quite well and can elaborate on any of the holes there.

Too often the name Tom Fazio is thrown into the picture and the herd mentality then comes forward to pan anything he has created. The Glenwild layout is a first rate example in designing a layout in high alititude that still has enough design moxy and challenge to handle a broad range of skill levels.

I'd be curious for those who have played Tuhaye how they match up the different courses.

[Robert Mercer Deruntz]

OT  Brad, I was probably on the same tram with you a couple of times that day.  I ski Alta/Snowbird @ 20 days a year.  Micheal is correct about skiing Dear (that is how it was spelled when it was a whorehouse area,  pre-ski resort) Valley a couple days after a dump.  Where else than a fufu mountain would great powder remain untracked?  Rule of thumb--Alta gets about 35% more snow than Park City on any given storm--enough said about the Cottonwood Canyons side of the mountain!