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John Kavanaugh

Erin Hills and Sebonack...Two more courses in the Sand Hills...Fonzie is ramping up..

Tim Pitner

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John,

What do you mean?  I think you're going to have to explain your statement further.  I understand what "jumping the shark" means--I'm not quite sure how you're relating it to those courses.  

Jordan Wall

I thought Erin Hills was ruined by the bye hole..

Oh, whatever, carry on...
 ;D ;) ;)

Dan Moore

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Fonzie jumping the bye hole at Erin Hills.  

"Is there any other game which produces in the human mind such enviable insanity."  Bernard Darwin

John Kavanaugh

John,

What do you mean?  I think you're going to have to explain your statement further.  I understand what "jumping the shark" means--I'm not quite sure how you're relating it to those courses.  

So much has happened this year that changes the face of golf as we used to know it...

Sebonack builds maintenance buildings in the back yard of the soul of the game...

Erin Hills changes how courses will be rated forever...Can't wait for the Golf Digest 100* Greatest..

Dismal River will lead to hit and run reviews of courses it takes a day to just get to..

Liberty National and Jersey by the Bay open up weekday golf to the super influence peddlers...

« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 01:47:01 PM by John Kavanaugh »

Tim Pitner

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I could care less what effect Erin Hills has on ratings.  I am very concerned that's it's 8200+ yards long.  That may be jumping the shark.

John Kavanaugh

I could care less what effect Erin Hills has on ratings.  I am very concerned that's it's 8200+ yards long.  That may be jumping the shark.

I wonder why Erin Hills is so expensive..$150 plus $10 for a pull cart...It is just one of many unusual courses this year.

note:  The rating comment is a response to Ward being so disgusted by EH not being eligible for the Digest lists...It may not even be true.

Matt_Cohn

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I'll "bite" - what does "jumping the shark" mean?

Scott_Burroughs

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I could care less what effect Erin Hills has on ratings.  I am very concerned that's it's 8200+ yards long.  That may be jumping the shark.

It can be stretched to 8200 yards.  The back tees are listed at 7824 on the EH web site.   It's "elastic" that way, to try to get a U.S. Open.  ::)    Just as The Ocean Course at Kiawah can be stretched to ~7900(?) but is only listed much lower.

Shivas,

Had to look it up, but the Happy Days order of events goes like this:

Theme song changed
Pinky
Shark
Chachi

Matt,

http://www.jumptheshark.com/
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 02:17:09 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

Tim Pitner

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I could care less what effect Erin Hills has on ratings.  I am very concerned that's it's 8200+ yards long.  That may be jumping the shark.

It can be stretched to 8200 yards.  The back tees are listed at 7824 on the EH web site.   It's "elastic" that way, to try to get a U.S. Open.  ::)    Just as The Ocean Course at Kiawah can be stretched to ~7900(?) but is only listed much lower.

Just to clarify my comment, the fact that Erin Hills or the Ocean Course can be stretched to 8000+ yards doesn't bother me per se--I won't be playing those courses from anywhere close to that yardage.  But, it does bother me that people believe that courses have to be stretched that far in order to host important tournaments.  

John Kavanaugh

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2006, 03:04:14 PM »
Now that the Sand Hills has become the fav of the hit and run aficionados...Is Sutton Bay the only monogoplay destination left..
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 03:06:32 PM by John Kavanaugh »

Tom Huckaby

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2006, 03:08:56 PM »
Now that the Sand Hills has become the fav of the hit and run aficionados...Is Sutton Bay the only monogoplay destination left..

Not that I agree that Sand Hills is a hit and run course - seriously - who has actually done that - played Sand Hills just once in combination with others? - but wouldn't Bandon Dunes be a monogoplay destination?

Jim Nugent

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2006, 03:11:29 PM »
I'll "bite" - what does "jumping the shark" mean?

It is the moment when something passes its prime, and heads inevitably, irretrievably downhill.  Comes from a scene in the TV show "Happy Days," where the Fonz jumped over a shark while he was water skiing.  

John Kavanaugh

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2006, 03:12:06 PM »
Huck,

There are three courses at Bandon...I think.  Where do you think hit and run artists are going to stay when doing a Sand Hills/Dismal/Ballyneal outing.  I doubt if they will stay one night at each...

note: Dismal has a mandatory stay policy for their members..
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 03:13:35 PM by John Kavanaugh »

Tom Huckaby

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2006, 03:17:13 PM »
JK - so I guess Bandon doesn't count - it is a solo destination though for sure.

Re golf in the Sand Hills, man I can't see many doing one round hit and runs at any of those... but maybe some will.  I have no clue what the policies are - my take is they are still pretty damn far apart - and of course I only know about Sand Hills but I can't see one round ever being "enough" at any of these... Just seems weird to me if anyone would do one and outs covering all three of these.

TH

John Kavanaugh

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2006, 03:21:10 PM »
Huck,

You are out of the loop my friend..

Tom Huckaby

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2006, 03:22:25 PM »
JK - indeed.  Happily so, when it comes to this crap.

 ;D

TEPaul

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2006, 06:55:57 PM »
"Personally, I always thought Happy Days went in the toilet as soon as they abandoned Bill Haley & the Comets as the opening theme song or at a minimum, by the time Pinkie Tusquederro showed up...certainly, by the time Fonzie jumped the shark, that show blew.
Which came first:  Chachi or the Shark?"

Shivas:

Jeeesis man, what is this?

Hey, look, do you know if the Fonz nailed both Laverne and Shirley? I've got to know this and I've got to know it by midnight tonight.  

John Goodman

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2006, 06:59:56 PM »
TEP -

No, but I think he nailed both Lenny and Squiggy ::)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2006, 08:16:20 PM »
Has anyone seen Clerks II...I have to admit that the guy who was flaming the blog at the begining of the show made me uncomfortable...speaking on topic...

If Pronghorn wins best new private...the shj...

If ______ ______ ______... the shj..

John_Conley

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Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2006, 09:21:10 PM »
Haven't seen Clerks II, but I love me some Jason Mewes.  For you basketball fans, put photos of Josh Boone and Mewes side-by-side and notice the resemblance.

I'll see it when it is available on rental.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2006, 09:48:21 PM »
Haven't seen Clerks II, but I love me some Jason Mewes.  For you basketball fans, put photos of Josh Boone and Mewes side-by-side and notice the resemblance.

I'll see it when it is available on rental.


John,

Given the content of Clerks II I would be careful of renting the movie...I would not want it on my database.  Go to WalMart and buy it like my wife did with Brokeback Mountain..

Mike Nuzzo

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Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2006, 05:41:16 PM »
Modern Architecture jumped the shark when replica courses started showing up...

Barney,
Modern architecture doesn't jump the shark, individual architects do.  As long as the work is original, no shark jumping.

Lacey edge bunkers have jumped the shark...
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

JMorgan

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Re:Will this be seen as the year modern architecture jumped the shark..
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2006, 06:55:36 PM »

Modern architecture doesn't jump the shark, individual architects do.  As long as the work is original, no shark jumping.


Amen.  And forget the whole "schools" and "-isms" fetishes, as well.  

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