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PThomas

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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2006, 05:18:24 PM »
looks fabulous...some of the pics remind me of Sand Hills, which of course is a compliment

another course on my "must get to" list!
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John Kirk

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2006, 06:32:36 PM »
Ran,

Thanks for another great course report.  Spectacularly beautiful golf course.  Looks really fun to play.  Can you walk it?

RJ_Daley

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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2006, 07:11:57 PM »
There are a couple of things else that ought to be said for Sutton Bay regarding the access and playability.  

First, recognize that it is a private club like Sand Hills or BallyNeal, etc.  The director of the facility, Mark, has been very gracious and welcoming of those that have written him and asked to have a chance to experience it.  I don't want to be so presumptious as to speak out of place, but one should realise that you can't just go out there, show up at the door and expect to be allowed to play. Yet - though a non-member, however being among friends that apparently are recognized by the Sutton Bay management as belonging to this fanatical golf design appreciation academy called GCA.com, I have never been made to feel more welcome and genuinely accepted than Mark has gone out of his way to accomodate some of us, twice in the last few years.  Just being treated that freindly and well was worth the trip.  

I am well known to be one that greatly desires to walk my golf courses, more so these days with the assist of a push sun mountain type trolley as my back is not getting any younger.
Sutton is not a walkable course for me in its totality.  But, there is an internal loop of 3-12 that has a halfway house between 12 and 13 and accessible from off the green on 6 where you can leave a cart and walk the innner loops.  That is a spectacular walkable portion.  There is also a cute looking par 3, 9 hole course that I haven't had time to play, but looks cool.  

If I were in the category of a wealthy or even modestly well to do business man that puts a value on entertaining clients in a sort of rugged men's circle of sporting associates, Sutton Bay is a no-brainer to become a member.  It has world class pheasant hunting, and world class fishing in one of the really unique geographic areas of this country.  The lodge/facilities and cabins are better (IMHO) than Sand Hills.

The last time I was there with a GCA.com group, we played in the most severe weather conditions I ever played in.  It was so brutal, that my face was literally swollen from freezing winds and sleet pelting into our faces for a few days.  Yet, looking back on it, and the time spent with our friends in the lodge that evening, it was one of the most invigorating and memorable golf experiences I have had.  The other time, in beautiful weather, after a fine meal an evening sitting outdoors around the fire pit with some fire water, under that most gorgeous western skies, it was sort of like and episode of "City Slickers" and I was waiting for Curly Joe to show up and tell me what the "one thing" is. ;) ;D 8)
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Don Dinkmeyer

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2006, 07:16:25 PM »
I had the fun and privilege to join RJ and Jason on the visit last April/May.

Sutton Bay truly is a spectacular view; a thinking man's course, a course that rewards the well struck shot, and a putter's paradise.

Although w/ the conditions we experienced it was hard to dwell on that!

One of my recollections off the course was driving back to the clubhouse - a mile from the course - with the lights in the cart ON.  :P

(edited for spelling)
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Dan Kelly

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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2006, 07:48:11 PM »
The other time, in beautiful weather, after a fine meal an evening sitting outdoors around the fire pit with some fire water, under that most gorgeous western skies, it was sort of like and episode of "City Slickers" and I was waiting for Curly Joe to show up and tell me what the "one thing" is. ;) ;D 8)

Dick --

I distinctly recall sharing with you, on that fine evening, what the "one thing" is.

You don't remember?

Danged firewater!

Dan

P.S. to the group: I enthusiastically endorse Dick's comments, in toto. If my pockets were deep enough, I can assure you I'd be there to greet you when you arrive for a visit. I'm not schooled enough in the golf courses of the world to rank Sutton Bay -- but I'm schooled enough to say that the course (and, more generally, the PLACE) has earned the highest possible rating in my heart. It's aces all the way.

P.P.S. The thread where I gave detailed comments on the course's design seems to be NLE -- but I will revive this much: Don Dinkmeyer is absolutely correct when he calls Sutton Bay a putter's paradise. The greens have enough rolls and slopes and tilts, dramatic and subtle, that I would never tire of the short game there.
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Tony_Chapman

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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2006, 11:21:12 PM »
I'm sure no one else cares, but to see "Nebraska" and "exotic world locations" in the same sentence really made my day!!

RJ_Daley

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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2006, 10:04:12 AM »
I don't believe Ran mentioned if he had a go at it, or some portion of the course with his hickory sticks.  Certainly, that would require playing from the forward tees due to some extremely long carries to FW.  Ran...?
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Tom Huckaby

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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2006, 10:11:52 AM »
RJD:  understood that these are private courses and one can't simply show up.

I just wouldn't have asked if I didn't already have certain connections to make them happen personally.  But still, this is a good caveat.

TH

Geoffrey Childs

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2006, 10:19:49 AM »
Ran

Kudos on another gem of a course review. My face is all dry and wind burnt just from reading it.



You have conveyed the vast spaces and beauty very well and as usual the dissection of the golf course has us ready to buy our plane tickets and hit the road.


Perhaps Mr Sweeney is correct from the other thread he started.  Your words and photos throw a blanket on a much larger crowd, some of whom have a good deal of influence in the golf community.

I know you are a busy chap but please keep these reviews coming.

ps- RJ- I think Ran has recently become a technology freek with scientific fitting and "game improvement" implements.  He really wants to beat Mr Mucci badly
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RJ_Daley

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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2006, 10:30:00 AM »
Gee Geoff, Ran embracing the dark side of the technology race...I can't imagine Mucci inspiring that much motivation to whup his behind in a friendly golf match! ;) ;D :o
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Geoffrey Childs

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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2006, 10:55:20 AM »
Gee Geoff, Ran embracing the dark side of the technology race...I can't imagine Mucci inspiring that much motivation to whup his behind in a friendly golf match! ;) ;D :o

RJ- alas it's true.  Mr Mucci certainly is capable of inspiring motivation.  How long have you been on here reading the banter between those two?  - and who says it is a friendly golf match?  The friendly stuff is before and after!
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Mike Benham

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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2006, 11:44:12 AM »
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There are a couple of things else that ought to be said for Sutton Bay regarding the access ...


GCA does not stand for Golf Course Access ...
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Tim Pitner

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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2006, 01:20:23 PM »
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There are a couple of things else that ought to be said for Sutton Bay regarding the access ...


GCA does not stand for Golf Course Access ...

Mike, I don't really understand your comment.  My take was that RJ was just reminding people that Sutton Bay is a private course.  Surely, just writing the word "access" doesn't merit criticism.  (I know, don't call you "Shirley").  

Garland Bayley

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2006, 01:23:20 PM »
Thanks Ran,

I really appreciate your reviews on this site. I am looking forward to the Sebonack review.  :)
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Tyler Kearns

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2006, 06:26:16 PM »
Sutton Bay is awesome, both the golf course and the remote and beautiful setting. Mark Amundson is a great host, eager to share with us GCA geeks this wonderful place. If you are able to play the course, I suggest playing in late September or October, for practical purposes (it being a private club) and for the glorious late fall golf days. I played in early October, and still had time to squeeze in 54 holes.

TK

Ed Morrissett

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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2006, 09:48:53 AM »
Betty and I have been privileged to visit Sutton Bay twice -- once in 2004 and again in 2005 this time with our three sons, Ran, Bill and John.  The golf there has been well described and is some of the finest anywhere.  As a place to stay and enjoy, as an individual, with a family or for a business gathering, it may be unequalled as a site not on the coast or in the mountains.  As has been pointed out, you don't get there by mistake.  The cottages are superb with panoramic views from a high ridge line in all directions.  The sunrises and sunsets are spectacular.  The food is great.  Most of all, the people are so nice.

It is truly unique and you won't ever forget having been there.

John Morrissett

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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2006, 10:26:58 AM »
As Ran does a good job capturing the appeal of the golf course (did I just pay my brother a compliment???), I wanted to mention the other aspects of the Club.  First, two stories about the hospitality at Sutton Bay (from when I was fortunate enough to visit twice last year):

In early May I played on a terrible day -- rain, wind and cold.  Around the turn (the farthest point from the clubhouse) a man from the clubhouse came out with a thermos or two full of hot chocolate for the two or three groups on the course.

In July, my family and I were playing one morning when a thunderstorm blew through.  We holed up in a shelter off the 3rd fairway, and when we resumed the temperature had dropped 20-30 degrees. A few holes later, a member of the maintenance staff stopped to loan our mother his fleece jacket, as he suspected she was cold.  (Mom was just riding with us and not playing.)

The clubhouse and cabins are first rate.  On my May trip I spent a stormy morning in the clubhouse and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Heck, with the great views, attractive clubhouse, warm staff and wonderful food, I would even go to Sutton Bay even if I knew I would never make it out onto the course!

kwl

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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2006, 08:04:19 PM »
great golf. great people. i like the recommendation to visit even if the weather won't permit golf.


Rick Shefchik

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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2006, 09:52:39 PM »
Having visited once on a glorious fall weekend (the only weather drawback was frost -- an unfortunate but likely development on short, sunny fall days) I just wanted to add my agreement to the other comments here. It's a once-in-a-lifetime kind of location that I'm saving my money for so I can go at least one more time this fall.

Marsh made excellent use of center-line hazards. Think before you take the headcover off the driver.

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