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JNC Lyon

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Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« on: February 14, 2006, 10:12:10 PM »
Is this course any good??  I know it is a Bob Cupp course, right near the Choctawhatchee Bay.  From the air, there appear to be a few neat holes.  We are on a tight-ish budget, so area suggestions are appreciated if not too expensive.  Thanks.
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Bill_McBride

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Re:Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2006, 10:21:28 PM »
I don't know about Emerald Bay.  I've lived in the area (about 60 miles west in Pensacola) for 10+ years and never felt energized to go over there and play.  The area is surprisingly low on top notch courses.  The new Windswept Dunes, north of Destin and the bay on US 20, is a lost opportunity.  Unwalkable series of holes, some very good, but not a golf course.  Kelly Plantation, Burnt Pine, The Raven, all pretty good but nothing fantastic.  I'd get on the net and look for price advantages.

Sorry for the negative perspective, just being realistic.  Others may have better ideas.  I know John Bernhardt was pretty high on Camp Creek but that's an hour and a half east in Panama City.

I have played most of my local golf at Pensacola CC and travelled for better golf.

JNC Lyon

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Re:Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2006, 10:27:25 PM »
I did play Camp Creek last year, as it was close by to where we stayed, and it had a very nice junior rate for myself.  I liked the course quite a bit, with some very good strategic holes.  A few duds, but mostly fun.  I am going to try Windswept Dunes, as I don't mind riding too much.  
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

Bill_McBride

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Re:Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2006, 10:30:29 PM »
Let me know what you think about Windswept Dunes - to me it has a very disconnected feeling and poor flow with all those long rides, but there are some solid holes and the greens were well conceived.  And the $$ are right.  ;)

Keith Williams

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Re:Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2006, 10:52:30 PM »
I played Emerald Bay back when it was one of the first golf courses in the area other than Sandestin to market themselves heavily toward vacationing golfers.

It is a really enjoyable layout that possesses a real "middle of the road" feel in that there is nothing incredible out there, nor is there anything to turn you off.  There are some very solid holes out there including 1, 5, 7, 10, 13, and 15; and some other holes that have real interesting strategy, but don't quite carry the idea into action (see #4 if you play it).  I can't vouche for the maintenance practices out there now, but when I played it was one of the first courses I had ever see that featured elaborate chipping and collection areas all around the greens.  They were maintained at about fringe height and actually brought a lot of variety into greenside recovery options - in fact they were definitely the most memorable part of the course.  The course also gets really interesting when the wind kicks up, lots of holes into and with the wind; for example in a heavy wind the long par 4 15th will play way shorter than the short par 4 17th.

Re:  Windswept Dunes - go ahead and see it.  No, it will never be looked upon as a pure golf experience, and I can see how some people could be turned off by the cart rides and poor flow, but that wasn't enough to keep me from seeing that many of the holes there, on their own merit, were really great holes with many of the features loved here and not found on your average resort course:  centerline hazards, risk/reward alternate routes and strategies, and some really neat greens.

Keith

JNC Lyon

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Re:Emerald Bay Club--Destin
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 09:47:49 AM »
I was able to get to Emerald Bay to play this weekend.  We played the back nine first, which had a great variety of fun holes.  10 and 11 were totally different par fours to get you started, followed by a brutal long par three, a par five with an dilemma for a second shot, an odd but fun short four.  The golf really began wiith 15, a long four with the Choctawhatchee Bay in the background for the approach.  With ten bunkers, the hole might seem to be overkill, but they created immense strategy, as flirting with the six to the right off the tee meant not having to contend with four on the left for the approach shot.  The hole played tough into the breeze.

16 is right along the water, though it is not particularily difficult to hit the green.  The main concern was the green itself, where Cupp created interesting contours which defy the general pull toward the bay, making putts difficult to read.  17 was a fun short four with a narrow, undulating green (a staple of the course) and 18 was a swing hole for a finisher as a short par five.

Then came the front nine, which was the protoypical FLA housing course, water on side, condos on the other.  For me, only holes 1 and 3 were truly interesting and fun.  Because of the extreme mediocrity of the front nine, the course may or may not merit a return visit, despite the inherent character of the back nine.

Also played Seascape, across US 98 from EBC, which we found to be more enjoyable.  It was very short and very quirky, with a lack of strategy, but it still had a lot of neat features without being really contrived (many would say the water was very contrived, but most of it was probably already there.  Holes 1, 2, 3, 10, 12, 14, and 18 were all pretty neat as far as I am concerned.  But maybe I just liked it because it was short and fit my game :)
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