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Brock Peyer

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Something different about Riveria?
« on: February 18, 2006, 10:22:08 PM »
I have only seen about 10 minutes of the coverage this weekend but Riveria looks different to me.  Is there something different about the maintenance of the course, the grass, or is the color and contrast on my TV simply failing me?  Just curious.

Daryl "Turboe" Boe

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 10:54:08 PM »
Yeah there is something different.  They are called shadows and they are caused by trees and other objects when the sun shines on the course.  I had never seen them on Riviera either before the the other day.
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Tom Jefferson

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2006, 10:55:16 PM »
Saying this without having seen ANY coverage this year, but Riviera has Kikuyu, which has a lime green color.  If there is any rogue bermuda that will be at least semi dormant and definitely off color.

Otherwise it must be the SMOG!

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Bill Weber

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 05:56:34 AM »
It's the commercials, interviews and promos that block a majority of golf course views. ::)

Lawrence Largent

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 08:34:31 AM »
Personally I think its those crappy cameras that ABC uses i'm so glad that ABC backed out of the golf business. Its amazing at least in the high definition televisions well all televisions for that matter how much darker the picture is with ABC.


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Rob_Waldron

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2006, 09:21:29 AM »
I agree with the ABC Theory. For years I have been frustrated with the color of the ABC broadcasts. At first I thought it was my TV then I changed channels to another golf broadcast and it was like night and day. The only thing worse is the BBC broadcast quality. For some reason the picture just looks fake.

Brock Peyer

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2006, 06:02:06 PM »
...not exactly the responses that I was expecting.  It seemed to be more manicured looking than usual, could that have been that they have had rain the last couple of years and I might have forgotten what a pretty course it is?  

My wife thought that I was crazier than usual when I commented how pretty some of the bunkers were.  She said that it just looked like sand,...except when Freddie was in it.

Eric_Dorsey

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2006, 09:39:34 PM »
I'll let ya in on some professional tricks of the trade - it's called filters.  NBC was the first to start using them a few years ago, now CBS is doing it to.  I don't think ABC uses them, which is unfortunately, why the courses don't look as good to ya'll because they're not as green.  The filters they use make the course look ultra-green, when they really aren't.  It's like 'Photoshop-ing' the telecast.  If you look really hard at the sand and some of the images in the background, and if they have a yellow or green tint, than the cameras are using filters.

Did you notice how GREEN Kapalua and Wailea looked during the telecasts?  I know Hawaii is green, but it's not THAT green.  From most of the pics I've seen, the turf looks a darker-green with some blue in it.  This year, they looked like glowing emerald carpets.

We know that all the courses out there don't look like Augusta National, not even the best PGA stops like Riviera I don't think.  From all the pics I've seen of Riviera, it does have a light-green color to the turf, and did look especially good this year as it was dry for once!  nice horizontal mowing lines on the tee boxes and fairways looked good I thought, and emphasized the contours in the fairways.  

What I noticed this year was all the ancient old, giant sycamores down in the 'grove' in the bottom part of the courses valley - #5, #6, #7 tee, #17 tee, and #16 green.  Some of them aren't even alive anymore! and upheld by metal supports and beams - a very cool touch I thought.  

Can't wait to see this great old course some day for the tourney.
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Doug Siebert

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2006, 11:53:05 PM »
Jeez, if that's true its just going to give people an even more unrealistic view of what golf courses should look like.  Sort of like how people think that Barbie dolls gave girls unrealistic images about what they should look like as women.

So now we have overwatering and more and more fake breasts.
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David Druzisky

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2006, 06:50:41 PM »
Brock,

I stopped by Riv on Wednesday AM during the Pro Am with Brent Harvey who is the irrigation consultant that they are using for the new system starting in April.  I had the pleasure of spending some time with the GC Superintendent as well then walked the lower holes (13,8,7,) and those adjacent then around to the CH.

The course did look in very good condition in person.  They had a little cold streak a couple weeks prior and the Kikuyu went a little off color but it seemed to have come back around a bit though it was rather cold during the tournament as well (cold for CA). At rough height the rough is going to be a a bit odd with the variety of grasses there.

There was a comment that the rains they had last year was good for leaching salts overall so things are healthy.  Things should only improve with the new irrigation system and level of control they will then have.  I am looking forward to seeing what they do with the bunker work.

DbD

peter_mcknight

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2006, 07:13:53 PM »
Yes, there is something different about the Riv.  The alternate green on the famous 10th looks positively awful and out of place.

Before the advent of the alternate green, to the right of the 10th green was an expansive field of near virgin kikuyu rough that must have been 4-6" deep.  It made going after that green that much more difficult because you really couldn't lose it to the right of the greenside bunker in the kikuyu and expect to get down in three if the hole location was in the back portion of that green.  Now it is bombs away.

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David Kelly

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Re:Something different about Riveria?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2006, 07:22:26 PM »
If there is a set of original plans for Thomas' masterpiece, somebody please take them out and restore this classic back to a recognizable life form.
Unfortunately that's just not going to happen.
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