For my game, I think that the added length of Teeth is awesome. I enjoy the course architecturally more than Pebble, but tended to hit shorter shots than I think was the original intent. Two years ago when I was playing well, I was greenside on all par 5's at worst and hit SW into 1, 2, 4, 8, 10, and 15. It is possible that 4 may be the hardest par 4 on the course. I forgot to mention that the 17th has a new green complex with a front to middle right bunker and new sloping. The green now slopes from right to left and is probably 40 yards in depth. I think the new grass will be great. I thought the 8th putted best the past 2 years--this green was the experimental green for the changes. As for the Dye Fore, I play it from the tips and have a blast. I marginally have enough length to play it pretty well. Both courses were playing soft in the fairways due to the rainy fall. I think the Dye Fore plays well to players of any length. There is no doubt that it plays its best when super firm and fast-- which I experienced in 2003. I cannot think of any course that relies upon angles more than the Dye Fore. It is simply brilliant. The fairways may be 70 yards wide and even wider in spots, but you must be positioned in the area that offers the most green to work with for a run at the flag, or on the side where the green slopes towards your ball; failure to execute necessitates playing away from flag for par. The average player can roll the ball onto every green. Bump and run is very much part of the needed skills to score well on the Dye Fore. I know some people were not blown away by the course a couple of years ago in post/topic. I think this course is brilliant. My ex-wife, who was not a very accomplished player thought it was the most fun course she had ever played--she used to play Maidstone a lot many years ago when married to another person. She was able to see what Dye was challenging on every hole and it made her appreciate and be able to criticize other courses after playing it a couple of times.