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T_MacWood

Re:Country Club of Cleveland
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2005, 12:43:21 PM »
Rockefeller oversaw the construction of Ross's redesigned Inverness. Here are some other articles from 1921 and 1922 (including a speech by Marshall). I didn't find any clues or indication of anything out of the ordinary. It could be Flynn was there to pick Rocky's brain or perhaps Flynn was involved with one of his design projects.

http://turf.lib.msu.edu/gsr/1920s/220267.pdf

http://turf.lib.msu.edu/gsr/1920s/210219.pdf

http://turf.lib.msu.edu/gsr/1920s/2107132.pdf

wsmorrison

Re:Country Club of Cleveland
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2005, 01:26:08 PM »
Tom Paul,

I'll go take a look in Brad's book and ask Craig if he has any early aerials of Inverness.  I'll try and see if anything shows up.

The letters of which you are intimately familiar have Flynn at Inverness for several weeks in November, 1921 working with E.J. Marshall.  I cannot find my copy of the letter.  As I recall there was no mention made of Rockefeller and Flynn.  

Do you know the month of the 1922 Green Section article?

Tom MacWood,

Strange that all seemed well at Inverness according to Rockefeller.  I wonder what Flynn was doing hanging out in western Ohio in November.

TEPaul

Re:Country Club of Cleveland
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2005, 07:05:26 AM »
Wayne:

I guess without anything specific it'd be hard to know what Flynn was doing out there at that time.

I guess we should be careful how much stock we put in the so-called "agronomy letters" between the Wilsons and Piper and Oakley, even though the length and quantity of their correspondence (maybe 2000 letters) seems remarkable and seemingly unprecedented because of that.

What we don't know is whether or not Piper and Oakley were carrying on the same type of intensely developmental agronomic experimentation and correspondence with others at the same time they were with the Wilsons (Toomey and Flynn). Perhaps we should ask the USGA Green Section if they have any other files from others around the country who were corresponding with Piper and Oakley the same way the Wilsons were for the same amount of time and at the same time.

The way the death of Frederick Winslow Taylor seemed to inspire them to collect and disseminate information which morphed into the Green Section and the Green Section "Bulletin" as well as inspiring Piper and Oakley's book certainly seems to have begun with Hugh Wilson (and we can't forget that Piper or Oakley initially asked Wilson to write a book on agronomy, right?).

And we certainly know that in Hugh Wilson's mind there was no greenkeeper as good and as economically efficient as William Flynn. What I've never completely figured out, though, was exactly when Flynn may've given up greenkeeping as to real active involvement and become totally involved in architecture. I guess one way to tell would be when Joe Valentine became Merion's official greenkeeper. But even with that I think Flynn continued to oversee him for a period of time.

Sébastien Dhaussy

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Re:Country Club of Cleveland
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2005, 08:29:08 AM »

Lawson Little won the "Little Slam," both the British and American Amateur tournaments in consecutive years, 1934 and 1935.  The previous US Amateur was won at the more well-known Country Club, the one in Brookline, MA.  Little won the 1935, as Bob said, at The Country Club in Cleveland, or more precisely Pepper Pike, Ohio.  Where did Little win the 1934 and 1935 British Amateurs?  I tried to find it online but could not.

Wayne,

Lawson Little won the 1934 British Amateur at Prestwick and the 1935 Bristish Amateur at Royal Lytham ans St Annes.
"It's for everyone to choose his own path to glory - or perdition" Ben CRENSHAW

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