Jeff - I played two over my handicap so I think I see where you're going, my dislike wasn't based on playing poorly. And, no, no bag tag or momento.
Also, for the record, I did acknowledge that there are some very fine holes on the course, particularly the Biarritz hole. Would I discourage anyone from playing Fishers Island? Absolutely not, it is a unique experience in the world of golf and a pleasant summer's day. For my own personal taste, I think there are many superior courses in the region I would play over Fishers Island (Garden City, Maidstone, Bethpage Black, Shinnecock and NGLA just on Long Island alone). I personally wouldn't rush back. Not that I'm welcome after my blog anyway.
Kevin - as far as weak holes, one and two I have already mentioned but also the 10th hole I didn't like at all. Reminds me of the 2nd? hole at Gullane. I don't think an uphill hole without bunkering is that interesting. Certainly the 11th hole at Sand Hills is a much better executed version of how you can make a big uphill shot interesting. The 17th hole from what I remember is more or less a flat hole and I believe has no bunkers at all or maybe just a greenside bunker. It just isn't that imaginative. And I forget the hole number without the card in front of me, but among the last five holes from what I remember, a dogleg left, a narrow fairway on the right and then you hit your second shot over water left to the green. When I played, the hole was in such bad shape and covered in goose droppings that frankly it was hard to appreciate whether it was a good hole or not. Call that an unfair assessment on my part, but that's my impression.
Lastly, part of my impression is also formed by the feel of the club, the Island, the atmosphere. My personal blog is not Golfclubatlas, is not meant to be an architectural analysis. Others may not have experienced the state trooper or the other aspects of the club that give it an 'uptight' feel to me. It's also possible our host was trying to impress and some of the stories were apocryphal.
Or maybe TEPaul is right about me after all
Joe- appreciate your further thoughts and you taking the time to express your opinons, now I can retort. You still havent talked about Raynor's lack of routing prowess or your thoughts on that.. I'd like to see it.
Okay to your criticisms, I'll use some of the pictures on the GCA review..
#10 weak? I guess you don't like skyline greens which play havoc with gauging an approach. When you factor in the false front of the hole, there is a ton of interest from a shot value perspective. Can you feather in a low rider that bounces on? Will the wind knock you down with a high dropper? Little nerves to my stomach with how adventurous the shot looks..
So lets say you come up short.... Isnt this interesting with out bunkers and using the topography of the land/Raynor shaping..
Putter/wedge/lob wedge even, what shot do you want to hit if you miss..
When I played here last, I hit 9 iron to the flag one day and 4 iron the next, the vagaries of the wind make this a very strong hole with tons of options. All in only 400 yards. Raynor's routing skills add a lot of zest with the prevailing winds and topography. All without a single solitary bunker!
Look at #11.. One of the best par 3s around. Sitting on a little peninsula jutting out into the water thanks to Raynor's routing skills.. Miss your shot and look how tiny this gentleman looks in the bunker.. You told us in your blog you were not a fan of the bunkering.. Hmmn, looks mighty tasty to me here
The 14th is the Cape hole which you didnt like given the goose droppings. Obviously nature can sometimes render a course hostage to the scatalogical rantings of some aviary species but lets look at the hole. Strategic, not very sexy to the eye but look at the hole. You have a very narrow driving corridor. Drive close to the water and get the best angle and distance to the hole. Bail out to the right and leave a very long approach with more water in play. Classic strategy. I took on the water and had a 7 iron, my playing partner didnt and hit 3 wood from the right side of the fairway but adjacent to me.
#17 features a tough drive with high grass left, a rolling fairway and a well bunkered green complex.. Again, not sexy but fairway positioning is a must to avoid putting the deep bunkers in play..
Those are my retorts.. Kevin.