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David_Tepper

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New Courses in Scotland
« on: September 24, 2004, 07:07:24 AM »
The current issue of 'Bunkered' has info on a few golf course developments that I thought might be of interest.  It appears there are two courses to be built on Loch Lomond.  One is for Lyle Anderson at Loch Lomond Golf Club and will be designed by Jack Nicklaus.  They are waiting for final planning permission.  The second course to be built on Loch Lomond is for the De Vere Resort group - the Carrick at Cameron House.  Construction of the course started in May of this year and it should open for play in the summer of 2006.  There was no info on the GCA.  

The issue also contains an article about Brian Morgan, the well know golf photographer.  He mentions in the article that he is involved with a group buying the Royal Hotel in Campbeltown, near Machrihanish.  They are seeking planning permission to build a course near Machrihanish and have retained David McKay Kidd to design the course.      

Finally, the word is that the Mark Parsinen project (Kingsbarns II?) on the Moray Firth coastline between Nairn and Inverness is working its way thru the planning process.

David_Tepper

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Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2004, 10:06:42 AM »
I have just read that the GCA for the De Vere course will be Doug Carrick, a GCA from Canada.

TEPaul

Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2004, 10:09:30 AM »
Looks like Parsinen will be using architects Hanse & Co. The only final details and questions to be worked out are---will Geoff Shackelford actually spend a year in Scotland and away from his beloved LA and his even more beloved Starbucks coffee houses and actually deign to drink the mud in Scotland that passes for coffee and also how many boxes of cigars and how many tea-spoons they need to accomodate Bill Kittleman in his bunker creations?
« Last Edit: September 24, 2004, 10:18:36 AM by TEPaul »

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2004, 11:48:00 AM »
Starbucks are all over the UK now and all wireless laptop users frequent them in droves.

Marty Bonnar

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Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2004, 11:54:43 AM »
I have just read that the GCA for the De Vere course will be Doug Carrick, a GCA from Canada.

Therefore are we to assume that GCA's very own Ian Andrew will be visiting these shores??

actually deign to drink the mud in Scotland that passes for coffee

TEP
I thought you had never visited Scotland? If so, are you making a judgement on our coffee from photographic evidence, vicarious hearsay or simple, good old uninformed prejudice? ;D

FBD.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2004, 12:25:57 PM by Martin Bonnar »
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

TEPaul

Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2004, 01:08:09 PM »
"Starbucks are all over the UK now and all wireless laptop users frequent them in droves."

Mark:

Really? I must say I'm of two minds about something like that but that very well may mean Scotland will fortunately receive an extended period of the conceptual talents of one Geoff Shackelford, perhaps one of the finest new/old conceptual whiz-kids in the world of architecture today. There's no telling what brilliance he might conceive of over there in conjunction with Hanse and Co. We can thank Starbucks for this!

TEPaul

Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2004, 01:13:14 PM »
Martin:

No I can't say I've never been to Scotland. I was there about this time last year and although I'm not much of a coffee drinker I did have some in Scotland and it was nice and strong and fine. But I'm no Starbucks connoisseur of coffee as is Geoff Shackelford. I went into a Starbucks in NYC about a year ago (the first time in one of those places) and the selection was overwhelming to me. So I just asked the proprietor for a regular cup of coffee and he said something like that was impossible in Starbucks. I think I ended up choosing a glass of water instead.

GeoffShac may be into "coffee architecture" but I'm not--I'm only into "flask architecture" but only on special occasions!
« Last Edit: September 24, 2004, 01:14:56 PM by TEPaul »

Travis Ripley

Re:New Courses in Scotland
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2004, 03:18:59 PM »
i found the coffee in Scotland to be outstanding, strong, and full of virtue.  

Starbucks=the debbil.