[Tom Huckaby]

For that matter, MacKenzie had two S shaped greens, one with about a five foot tier at the UM course, and the U shaped green at Pasa.

Jeff - what is or was the U shaped green at Pasatiempo?  13 is kind of like a Y shape... I can't find any Us as the course exists today.  Was there a U there at some point in the past, and it's morphed into something else today?

Here's a current aerial....

http://www.golfworldmap.com/usa/california/pasatiempo/index.html#37.00459186255582,-122.03026413917541,17

TH

[Mike Benham]

#13 at Pasa is more of a Y but I would venture to guess that #5 might have been a U at one time ...

[Tom Huckaby]

#13 at Pasa is more of a Y but I would venture to guess that #5 might have been a U at one time ...

5 was my guess as well; a tongue could have extended on the left side of green to match the one on the right.

But maybe 13 also extended out more making that a U?

Either thought is pretty cool.

[Jeff_Brauer]

Tom,

It was five, but you are right, Doak must have altered MacKenzie when doing the restoration.  I haven't played there in the 2000's, but five was similar to the original ninth at Augusta, horseshoing around the front bunker.

[Kalen Braley]

If there is a category for greens on the 19th hole, then the practice green at PacDunes next to the 1st tee would have to be right up there.

After practicing on that I thought it would be 3 putts a plenty on course, but luckily none are as severe as that one.

[Jeff_Brauer]

Kalen,

I have always wondered why most of us gca's tend to make putting greens more severe than what is out on the course itself, rather than trying to match the contours.  I have been toning them down, but for years, they did have more contour.

[Dan Moore]

Here is the most unusual and probably the largest I played last year.  It is 60 yds wide, fairly severely sloped from upper back left to lower right over 3-4 distinct tiers.  Unusual yes, but I'm not convinced it was a good green.  Saw much better greens at Crystal Downs and Kingsley Club.  

[Kalen Braley]

Kalen,

I have always wondered why most of us gca's tend to make putting greens more severe than what is out on the course itself, rather than trying to match the contours.  I have been toning them down, but for years, they did have more contour.

Yeah it does seem a bit odd.  Most courses I play the practice green does seem to match pretty well the greens on the course.  

It was just such a shock to the system to practice on that one at PacDunes. I thought I was going to get slaughterd on the course, because every other attempt on that green was a 3 putt!!

I wish I had a picture of it

[Tom Huckaby]

Tom,

It was five, but you are right, Doak must have altered MacKenzie when doing the restoration.  I haven't played there in the 2000's, but five was similar to the original ninth at Augusta, horseshoing around the front bunker.

Whoa, careful with that Jeff - I had thought that Doak's marching orders were to MATCH MacKenzie (except on 11 green).   But maybe the man himself will see this and chime in.

I've also been playing that course since the early 80s and don't ever remember the part to the left of the bunker extending down.  If it was ever a U shape, I have to believe it was before that.  But looking at the historical photos on the Pasatiempo website, man that doesn't look like a U shaped green in its original state either.

http://www.pasatiempo.com/web/photos_slideshows.php

Go to photo #5.

Are you sure this was once a U?

TH

[Matt MacIver]

I have always wondered why most of us gca's tend to make putting greens more severe than what is out on the course itself, rather than trying to match the contours.  I have been toning them down, but for years, they did have more contour.

Our putting green was redone last year, with significant tiering -- a great putting green!  Sadly, none of our playing greens have as much contour.  But I was told that the tiers on the practice greens were installed to spread out the numerous putters, to give everyone a little space.  

[wsmorrison]

Usually the tee shot is photographed on this hole.  Given the quality of this green, it merits far more recognition.

[Bill Gayne]

The double greens on the Old Course and the green on 18.

[Ari Techner]

My vote would go to the reverse C shaped green (described above by Jeff Brauer as an S shaped green) at the University of Michigan course.  I am pretty sure it is #6.  (its been a little while since I went to school there)  
After every college match that was played at UM there were divots on the bottom and top of the green where players had no other chance to get close to the hole other than to chip it to a pin at the other side.  Its a very good hole measuring right around 300 yards.  

[Tim Bert]

I forgot my nomination for most unique in a very, very, very, very bad way...

#4 at Gillette Ridge

[Michael Dugger]

Michael Dugger,

Is that possibly yours truly and a disgusted caddie staring down at the results of a fat 9-iron at the ninth?

Mike

Bogey Hendren

It just might be, my friend, it just might be.  The picture is from Carlyle Rood's website, www.golfarch.com, so you tell me.

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