[John Foley]

The details Bob Huntley provided about the great round at Cypress and seeing Shinnecock last week got me thinking about how really unbelievable the top tour pro's are at going low. Ray Floyd spoke of his 64, shot as a member, being the current course record, but I think given a few days at Shinnecock an Singh, Els, Woods would go even lower than that. If the top pro's played a course regularly, especially now, the current course record would definetly drop.

I also seem to remember that John Harris shot 62 at Augusta but did not use all of the back tee's which Norman & Price did to shoot 63. I've heard of Bob Lewis 64 @ Pine Valley.

Anyone know the records at some of the other top courses where the tour pro's don't visit regularly such as:

NGLA
LACC
Sand Hills
Valley Club (Isn't Couples a member?)
Maidstone
Merion (One of the old US Open rounds?)
Spyglass
Rustic Canyon
Chicago


Add some others if you know.

[Tony_Chapman]

John - Though I am not 100% certain of this fact, I believe Nick Faldo shot 65 or 66 at Sand Hills.

[Geoffrey_Walsh]

I believe the course record at Merion is 63 by Davis Love III (the scorecard is on display in the locker room), however they have since built back tees that could not have been used for that round.

[Brian_Gracely]

Raleigh CC - Jimmy Green shot 60 during the last Carolina Classic (Nike Tour) that was held there (mid-90s).  

btw - Jimmy didn't win that event, but he did qualify for the US Open last week (missed the cut).  apparently we had to slow down the greens that week because The Golf Channel didn't want to show alot of players three-putting.

[David Wigler]

At Plum Hollow the course record is 64, shot by Sam Byrd on consecutive days in the 40's against Bobby Cruishank and Claude Harmon

[Tony_Chapman]

Didn't Curtis Strange once shoot a 62 at St. Andrews in the Dunhill Cup?

I think Tom Watson shot a 63 at Pinehurst #2 when they had that brief tour event there. Maybe a round when they hosted the Tour Championship in the early 90s?

[A_Clay_Man]

Unless it's been recently broken, I've been under the impression that 64 is Spy's CR. Co-owned.

A funny story from a friend who was witnessed to some T.V producer, absolutley stressing-out, with four cell phones going, directly in-front of the Lodge. (A most Serene place) His angst was that this relatively unknown Berganio (sp) was shooting a course record at Spy and this producer had nobody to get footage. I believe thefruits of all this stressing was a snipet, walking down the hill from the 18th green after the round. Not the shot the producer wanted.

[Carlyle Rood]

Bob Tway shot 60 at Atlanta C.C. the morning AFTER a bachelor party!  I think 63 may be the tournament record at ACC by Calvin Peete and others.

C

[Bob_Huntley]

Tom Paul,

Perhaps you can refresh my memory. Not a course record but didn't J.Wood (Woody) Platt play the first four holes at Pine Valley in something like ten strokes.....and then retired to to the bar for a drink and not finish the round?

Bob

[SPDB]

Claude Harmon holds the course record of 61 on both Winged Foot East and West, the latter supposedly shot while listening to a Yankees World Series game on the radio. If I remember correctly, he also holds the Seminole record of 60.

[Rick Shefchik]

Question: In order to be recognized as a course record, must the round have been played from the back tees? Or do courses keep records from each set of tees, or make no distinction?

RE Bob Tway's 60 after a bachelor party -- he might be a more rowdy customer than he appears to be, but if I were to bet on any pro to not be hung over in those circumstances, it would be Tway.

[peter_mcknight]

Mr Huntley...

Yes, the story about J Wood Platt at Pine Valley is true.  I know if that happened to me, I probably would have done the same thing.

Mr Chapman...

Yes, C Strange shot a 62 in a Dunhill Cup Match at St Andrews--called it one of his best rounds.  10 birdies.  Course played to 6933 yards at the time.  Today it is 7200 or so.

For Pinehurst no.2, I seem to remember G Gilbert shot a 62 there in one of the World Open Championships in the mid 1970s.  As it relates to the Tour Championship, the lowest round at no.2 was J Sluman in the 4th round (65) in 1992.


I would have liked to see C Harmon's 60 at Seminole in the late 1940s.

[Greg Holland]

Lee Porter, PGA tour pro (playing some Nationwide events this year), set the Greensboro CC Ross Course record of 59.

[Brian_Gracely]

The story I heard about Mr.Platt at Pine Valley was his round went 3-2-1-4-Drinks.  

[ForkaB]

Some guy shot 62 from the tips at TOC in this year's British Amateur qualifying.

The course recored at Dornoch is also 62, set by a similarly nameless assistant pro who showed up on the tee completely blootered from a long nights drinking.  Word is he could have broken 60 if he hadn't sobered up around the 15th.  Next best score, I think, is 65 or 66.

[Rick Shefchik]

Ah, Rich -- you've used one of my favorite words from my lone trip to Scotland in 1984.

The night before I took the train up to St. Andrews, my wife and I met three Scotsmen in an Edinburgh pub and joined them in an impromptu, night-long symposium on Scotch Whiskey -- complete with learning aids.

After some time, my wife and I suggested to one of them that he might be "s--- faced." He expressed amazement that we Americans could use such a term.

"It's too derrogatory," he kept insisting, with heavy, rolling emphasis on the r's.

"Well, what word would you use to describe being drunk?" I asked.

"We say 'blootered,'" he told me -- then proceeded to demonstrate a few minutes later by toppling backwards onto the floor.

Blootered, it is. (And blootered we were; thank God I wasn't terribly hung over the next morning for my only round at TOC.)

[Mike Vegis @ Kiawah]

The course record at The Ocean Course at Kiawah Island is 63 shot by Alex Cekja in the 1997 World Cup.  However, the course was set at approx. 6,750 yards (slightly longer then the Blue Tees) with virtually no wind.  It was set at around 7,300 for the Ryder Cup and a bit more than 7,400 in last year's World Cup.  Funny how a little wind and another 600 yards will do to a score...

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