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A_Clay_Man

Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2003, 08:09:01 AM »
Does the collection of 18 great holes make a great course or a great soul?
I'd have to say not neccesarily.
Then, is it possible that each hole has a soul? And then the perfect mixing of those souls makes for a sum greater than the parts?
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Forrest Richardson

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2003, 08:41:02 AM »
You've got it! And I had no idea those in New Mexico were so insightful!
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2003, 08:49:48 AM »
I apologize for not reading and/or remembering every response in detail, but I would add that "soul" is a function of human reaction, not inanimate objects.

Thus, in my case, the soul train arrives playing a course with history, weather matching my ideal for the course, companionship.  Its not hard to imagine others would include "best score" events as soulful.

Lastly, its common for a personal investment in a course.  Your lifetime of membership, or even a lifetime of waiting for a tee time with friends at the local muni - build that personal investment, and invariably, that course speaks to you.
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Norbert P

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2003, 01:39:31 PM »
 Soul value is a reflection of parallax positions of individuals bridled through osmosistic norms of society.

  If you give your woman a zircon ring, she will deem you soulless - not the ring.  If you give her a diamond ring, she will heap great praise upon you in front of her friends and family, thus engorging your great inner soulfulness through association of thoughtfulness and generosity.  

  A golf course must have the substance phlogiston to have soul, so, a golf course needs gorse and dryer grass to have soul.  
  
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2003, 01:53:31 PM »
Slag, does that soul valuation quote/definition need citing or did you actually come up with that?

Regardless, I don't speak that language.   ::)
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A_Clay_Man

Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2003, 02:00:38 PM »
Forrest- You are mostly correct.
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TEPaul

Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2003, 03:19:45 PM »
Slag:

Who the hell do you think you are--Max Behr? It gives me an inferiority complex when I think I might have to reach for my dictionary when I'm reading a post.

Forrest:

Soulmeter?! Fabulous! Put that one right into your new "golf-term" dictionary.

Jeff Brauer;

You architects, you and Forrest have got a great sense of humor--Thank God---"soulmeter", the "soul" train?!

Humor is good. Humor in architecture is very good! Now the both of you do me a big favor and start drinking to excess occasionally while on site. You won't believe the creative and imaginative things that will spring forth freely without a second thought or care in the world! And if it actually passes muster when sober the next day it'll probably be remarkably good or high quirk for the ages!
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Forrest Richardson

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2003, 07:57:59 PM »
Tom -- On one occasion I needed a good, stiff drink when working on The Hideout in Utah. Only to discover the State liquor store closed early and the only beer in town was 8%! Anyway, I survived...and the sixth green came out good regardless.
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TEPaul

Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2003, 09:10:31 PM »
My God man--you can't depend on a state liquor store when the creative need arises. Give me your mailing address, I'll send you a flask. Last time MacKenzie did that he created an 8 hole nine.
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Forrest Richardson

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Re: What gives a course its "soul"?
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2003, 07:53:05 AM »
Maybe that's the problem -- We wound up with 19.5 holes at The Hideout! Perhaps it's different at 7,000-ft than at sea level. Monticello, the truth be told, is actually quite a pleasant place, despite its lack of pubs.
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