Horschel is el muerte to me

[Mike Hendren]

Pat, what do you think the greens at Fircrest and Tacoma Country & Golf were stimping at over the weekend?  8 or 9?
 
FWIW, I'm guessing CB's were 6 when I played there.
 
Bogey

[Pat Burke]

Pat, what do you think the greens at Fircrest and Tacoma Country & Golf were stimping at over the weekend?  8 or 9?
 
FWIW, I'm guessing CB's were 6 when I played there.
 
Bogey

I would bet 9-10!
I would rather putt slow/smooth than Plinko boards that are fast


I definitely have been spoiled.  I also got in a lot of trouble on the US Tour when I kept asking why the Australian tour in the 80's consistently had better greens that the PGA Tour. 
Aussie greens were firm, fast, and held up remarkably throughout the day to traffic.

[Jim Nugent]

Pat, if the greens were so crummy, how did the players shoot so many low scores, and make so many birdies and eagles? 

Or maybe the question is, if the greens had not been in poor shape, how different do you think the tournament would have gone?  Lower scores? 

[Pat Burke]

put enough of those guys on any greens and low scores happen.  Especially when a couple par fours and par fives are easily reachable.


If the greens were all as smooth as the new ones, they likely put the holes in more aggressive positions.
a lot of the hole locations were pretty accessible for an Open

[Jeff Fortson]

You guys only like free speech when it's saying brown, bumpy and dead is good?  This is America, where free speech should be celebrated whether or not you agree with it.

I agree.  I also think "free speech" does not equal "free of consequences".  As an American, Horschel has the right to speak his mind. I also have the right to think he displayed terrible decorum.  How about sending Mike Davis, a man who probably had a role in some manner of selecting him to a Walker Cup (a tremendous honor), a letter or a personal phone call discussing his thoughts on the conditions? He came off like an entitled baby.

[Craig Sweet]

Look, the greens were inconsistent, bumpy, getting faster and bumpier as the day went on, and like someone said...some guys handled the crap greens better in their head than others....


I figured this would be a circus and it pretty much was.

[jeffwarne]

IMO, so what if he whines. Most pros do. This is why I have lost respect for him.


https://vine.co/v/ei3KK7TVZbI

I hope his putter's ok


not sure he actually hit the ground-looks like he pulls his punch

[Joel_Stewart]

He offered up a lame apology today.   

[David Ober]

I sure wish he would have tempered his words. The tournament was exceptional, and the greens were puttable. Very puttable. You needed to be delicate on your downhill putts and firm on your uphill putts. If you were, you could putt those greens.

[Garland Bayley]

Of course Ian at one point in his career was criticized for intimating that he was in Tiger's league and would pass him. Tiger has proven that for Ian, so who am I to criticize Ian for his agronomy expertise. 


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