Tom Paul, believe it or not, I am not advocating a minimalism here, or any other -ism. Just trying to explore what role, if any, natural topography has in gca.
You know Behr much better than I, so you can correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that Behr thought that nature played a role, at least so far as it was something that the architect couldnt completely tame it but had to work with it somewhat.
As for my statements on you reading Behr too broadly, I was focusing on your interpretation of "nature" vs. "forces of nature." I still dont think that any architect can go against "forces of nature." So, respectully, I think that Behr meant something different in the passage than what you attribute to him.
Try and answer my questions in the last post and I think you will see what I mean.
Jim Kennedy. It is a matter of degree. To over simplify, we went from accepting nature as is, to tweaking nature and making changes within certain natural constraints, to completely ignoring nature. I would say that Lido fits with the last while the rest of the era fits with the middle.
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Patrick. Yes much of the quirk in the greens at NGLA was man made, but made in such a way to take into account and compliment the natural conditions and flow of the land. The Lido is a large step beyond this, dont you think?
Also, patrick can we pretend like I set out the long quote above? I have played NGLA (once). I'd hate to see this thread digress into yet another "but have you played it?" thread between you and Tom M. After all, C.B. played it, and those are his words.
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Shivas. I am not talking about where you place your assumptions in your actual written hypo, but rather where you they fall in the natural progression of the way things work in the world.
Its the "assume you have a can opener" hypo when faced with problem of how to open a can.
Yes the Lido was an experiment but not just in the methods of costruction but also on whether man could duplicate nature on a large scale. CB at first thought man couldnt, but then couldnt resist trying anyway.
I think that in a large scale, as a guiding principle of gca, your assumptions are impossible for two reasons: 1. Too hard to duplicate nature. 2. Given the opportunity and technology, man would choose not to duplicate nature but instead would substitute something less random.
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Moriarty ..... see what you started
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I started? We both know who started this, George. And to think how easily it all could have been avoided . . .