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Sean_A



The tour pushed north some 30 miles to Beaufort. I could easily have stayed in Bluffton and day-tripped up to Beaufort to play Chechessee Creek club, but I wanted to take a day to walk around the town and see some of the antebellum homes clustered around Pigeon Point. The second oldest city in South Carolina, Beaufort retains much of its 19th century charm. At its heart, the county seat is a small town despite the suburban growth of strip malls and box shops on the edge of town. The number of islands which make up the county seem innumerable, although I am sure someone has made a final tally. A very enjoyable day was had and the Rhett House Inn topped it off in southern style.

The next morning, I retraced my steps south to play Chechessee Creek Club…which isn’t on an island! I knew very little about the course except that it is an early Coore & Crenshaw design. I say early, but CCC was built nearly ten years into the C&C partnership, circa 2000.  The course took me by surprise in that it completely depends on trees for the routing. I believe the idea was to eventually remove only enough trees to showcase specimen trees such as the magnificent live oaks and maintain healthy turf. Northerners such as myself can appreciate live oaks not only for their beauty, but also because they don’t lose their leaves in the fall. The leaves fall throughout the year which doesn’t result in the messy leaf hell which often plagues golfers in the north.
 
The greens are obviously of the push-up type; however, the fairway shaping is subtle and mainly for the purpose of drainage. I only noticed raised fairways in a handful of areas, yet most fairways were slightly raised and sand capped. The effect is that it may feel like the course is a week of hard rain and a high tide from being consumed by the tidal marsh. The juxtaposition of playing over firm turf which looks and seems as if should be damp takes some getting used to.



An amiable opener turning left, the hole gets interesting at the green. Definite shades of Yeaman's Hall.


I am not sure why trees near both sides of the tee have been allowed to remain on the short 2nd.  The reader can see we had a broody, heavy air day. I haven't sweated so much on a golf course in some years.


Despite the trees, an open front green will allow for a well judged low runner to make its way to the putting surface. 


The 3rd doglegs right, but the green is clearly in view like a beacon in the fog. There is an interesting trench  bunker down the right which seems heavy handed given the trees.


The approach.


Water is a well used theme throughout CCC. The green is a bit different as it doesn't seem to stand as proud as most of the greens. 


Once again the green is on view from the tee, but this time the enticement level is heightened due to a lack of trees down the right.


C&C covered the cheating down the right angle quite well.


The line of charm is certainly the way for most to play this hole.


More to follow.

Ciao
« Last Edit: January 01, 2025, 05:59:54 AM by Sean_A »
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Sean_A

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-4
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2024, 09:20:15 AM »
Chechessee Creek Tour cont

A three-shotter, the 5th follows the pattern of nearly every non par 3, the hole turns a bit...this time to the right. While the 5th reinforces the good walk and flow of the design, this hole didn't make much of an impression. Additionally, the several small bunkers up the left rough look out of place to me. It feels like they don't belong. Some of the bunkers can be seen in the photo below.


Probably the best hole thus far, the 6th is a toughie. Its quite difficult to drive on the left half of the fairway meaning the approach will likely not only be long l, but from an undesirable angle.


I don't know C&C courses well, but I am surprised by the consistent fairway lines marooning bunkers in the rough.


More to follow.

Ciao
 
« Last Edit: December 21, 2024, 12:05:49 AM by Sean_A »
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John Foley

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-6
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2024, 03:50:58 PM »

Love this place. I'd argue it's one of the best arrival drives in golf.

The first hole is such an eye opener. If you play a fade off the tee you are further back and the green is so tough if you miss it becomes a struggle.
That second hole tee shot for some reason appears a bit less obtrusive on my last visit. Bunkers left are no fun at all. Seen a almost perfect shot played from there just not stop moving until it finds the bunkers on the other side.
Hole 4 the angles matter. Miss right you have to land it short. Amazing how far the balls trundle away left and rear there. I'm amazed by how narrow it is.
Hole 5 is one I like. You can get aggressive w/ a good tee shot but those bunkers down the right will kick you hard.
Love the green on hole 6. From the FW it appears to be the easiest one you've faced so far but there is probably more internal movement than any other.
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Michael Whitaker

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-6
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2024, 08:49:26 PM »
Sean - on further investigation I think you would find that marooning the fairway bunkers is a local maintenance decision. Like you, I believe these bunkers should allow a ball to chase into them for full effect. But, money talks and the precise mowing necessary pushes the super to give them a smooth mowing line to save time… I think 🤔
« Last Edit: December 19, 2024, 08:50:57 PM by Michael Whitaker »
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ward peyronnin

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-6
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2024, 10:11:26 PM »
Sean
Welcome to America. Bunkers are all about framing and rough collars achieve that effect; bah on hazard value
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Craig Disher

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-6
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2024, 10:50:35 AM »
Regarding #5, one of the original plans for the hole retained a stream/wetland area that ran diagonally across the fairway 50-75 yards in front of the green. The outflow can be seen to the left of the green. Instead, the stream was covered and a tall pine was kept on the right side of the fairway about 140 yards from the green. The pine was felled by lightning and never replaced which made the bunkers on the left an oddity. They replaced a long waste area which continually filled with water. With the pine and bunkers (or waste area), the approach to the green was much more of a challenge.

Sean_A

Re: CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB: 2024 Helene Interrupted Heart of Dixie Tour 1-6 New
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2024, 09:31:21 AM »

Love this place. I'd argue it's one of the best arrival drives in golf.

The first hole is such an eye opener. If you play a fade off the tee you are further back and the green is so tough if you miss it becomes a struggle.
That second hole tee shot for some reason appears a bit less obtrusive on my last visit. Bunkers left are no fun at all. Seen a almost perfect shot played from there just not stop moving until it finds the bunkers on the other side.
Hole 4 the angles matter. Miss right you have to land it short. Amazing how far the balls trundle away left and rear there. I'm amazed by how narrow it is.
Hole 5 is one I like. You can get aggressive w/ a good tee shot but those bunkers down the right will kick you hard.
Love the green on hole 6. From the FW it appears to be the easiest one you've faced so far but there is probably more internal movement than any other.

Yes, being pin high on or off the greens is generally not good. This feature reminds me a lot of Ross greens.

Thanks Craig. I rather like the idea of a water feature cutting through the 5th. Although I suspect it would impact shorter hitters more than longer hitters.  Is the trench bunker on the 3rd also because of a drainage issue? It looks like it may have been a ditch at one point.

Chechessee Creek Tour cont

The short holes are the highlight of the course...with the proviso that this opinion is based on one play. Adjacent to the tidal marsh, the short 7th is one of a few holes which opens up a bit. Given this, I am not sure why the trees down the left remain. Either way, the hole remains excellent. The front-left of the green is sneaky low and further beyond the bunkers than appearances suggest.


I can't fault the design of the excellent 8th, however, I am not a fan of walls of trees crowding bunkers. This concept is used throughout Chechessee and I wonder why C&C chose this option.




Another ho-hum good green. There is definitely a preponderance of back to front slopes with the backs built up consistenly amongst this set of greens. Although, there are contour and slope differences which would be appreciated over many plays. 


The string of demanding two-shotters continues on 9. The three par 4s from the 6th to the 9th are over 400 yards. I notice that some of the greenside bunkering is shaped and placed to give the impression the approach is wider than is the case. The bunker connection actually spreads many yards away from the green. I didn't check it out, but I wonder if the holes with the preponderance of bunkering on one side (as seen on the left below) hide/protect the easier up and down position.  The photo below is from a good position in the fairway, if a bit further away than many would hope to be.




More to follow.

Ciao
« Last Edit: February 08, 2025, 04:02:33 AM by Sean_A »
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Sean_A

Chechessee Creek Tour cont

While a par 5, the 10th feels similar to the 9th. The dogleg angle and left bunkering is from the same page. Onto the short 11th; a downhill hole which doesn't play its 180 yards. This hole certainly feels more swampy as we are on a point near water...perhaps an offshoot of Chechessee River?  The hole looks straight-forward, but as with most of the greens, recovery is a devil.


An intimidating tee shot, the 12th plays over the marsh; the only forced carry of consequence. I suspect the trees are meant protect the properties on the right. This is the only time I recall housing interfering with the course. There aren't that many houses, something like 45, but many are owned by the club.


Approach after a leaked drive right.


Probably my favourite bunker on the course, this type of bunker has been used often by C&C. Given the approach should be a relatively short iron, the lion's mouth bunker doesn't ask too much of the golfer. Still, I suspect this bunker is sometimes given too much respect with approaches going over the green.


More to follow.

Ciao
« Last Edit: December 22, 2024, 03:16:06 PM by Sean_A »
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John Foley

IMHO 8 is the toughest hole on the course. The green in narrow and runs off severely on the right. Bunkers left are trouble and a miss off the tee brings the cross bunkers in play. 9 is a good challenge and demands a proper tee shot. Long and left is dead.


The stretch of 10-12 is very good. 10 while getable makes sure you pay attention. The green side bunkers eats approaches not solidly struck and this green has a lot of internal movement. 11 is just a ball buster tee shot. Mid- long iron w/ some tough pins. Miss the green and you pay a heft price. 12 is such a cool hole. The tee shot is much easier than it looks, plenty of room left. Above the hole is dead and miss on the wrong side of the lions mouth and the fun begins. Lots of creativity needed on the green if you are out of position.


Integrity in the moment of choice

Sean_A

Cheschessee Creek Tour cont

A stellar short hole, the string of fine holes continues with the 13th. I would like to know the thinking behind the left bunker. This motif of a visual widening of the area around the green is used often at Chechessee Creek.  No matter, this green is a nasty target, but not as harsh as it seems from the tee. I am one to say that there is no excuse to build a ho-hum short hole. The 13th looks entirely constructed and plopped on a flat piece of land. It doesn't blend with the surrounds as well as it might, but damn suspension of belief...the 13th is a cracker. 


A stiff hole, the 14th keep hope alive with a view of the green from the tee. I am not sure about the dew paths down the middle of the fairway corridor.


Again with the diagonal bunker from the left.


Once closer, we can discern the visual shell-game of the left bunker.


More to follow.

Merry Christmas
« Last Edit: February 08, 2025, 04:08:36 AM by Sean_A »
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Sean_A

IMHO 8 is the toughest hole on the course. The green in narrow and runs off severely on the right. Bunkers left are trouble and a miss off the tee brings the cross bunkers in play. 9 is a good challenge and demands a proper tee shot. Long and left is dead.

The stretch of 10-12 is very good. 10 while getable makes sure you pay attention. The green side bunkers eats approaches not solidly struck and this green has a lot of internal movement. 11 is just a ball buster tee shot. Mid- long iron w/ some tough pins. Miss the green and you pay a heft price. 12 is such a cool hole. The tee shot is much easier than it looks, plenty of room left. Above the hole is dead and miss on the wrong side of the lions mouth and the fun begins. Lots of creativity needed on the green if you are out of position.

The 8th is tough!

And yes, almost without fail, anything else than a miss short will require a deft recovery.

Chechessee Creek Tour cont

Unusual for CCC, the transition to the next tee is long. We walked past a few tees which stretch the 15th to 600 yards. Even the much shorter version of this par 5 is awkward mainly due to a tree short left of the green. Large trees further back on the right force play further left which brings the tree near the green bang smack into play. This hole doesn't set right with me.


More to follow.

Happy Boxing Day
« Last Edit: February 08, 2025, 04:11:07 AM by Sean_A »
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Sean_A

CCC TOUR CONT

A beefy short hole, the 16th steers us toward the house. The angle of the green is such that it may be wise to play for the front of the green. Even if short of the putting surface, it will likely be better than a miss from a brave shot. 


One of the best attributes of CCC is the tee to green visibility on the dogleg holes. The 17th is a sharp legger, yet the green sits there as a great temptation.


A closer look at the risk of cutting the corner.


There really isn't a straight par 4 or 5 on the course. C&C must have put some thought into the balance between the dogleg directions because they are about spot on equal in both directions. CCC finishes with a bruiser par 4 moving left. A bit like the 15th, I wonder if trees have been allowed to encroach on the fairway as I found the hole a bit narrow. Below is the long approach. There are no prizes for missing right.


I would like to know the reason why the greens are so similar. Yes, there are variations of slopes and contours on the individual greens, but they are mainly of the same type. I think one reason for this style is the greens can be approached on the floor. There aren't many forced carries to perched greens.

The walk is without question brilliant, which is always welcome, especially on modern designs. Perhaps most of all, I appreciated the dogleg style of the design which creates angles...and of course angles equals options. Seeing so many greens from tees was an added bonus which serves to highlight the options and add temptation. There are several holes of merit such as 4, 6-8 and 11-14 which reinforce the comments above and showcase playability through the green. All in all, CCC offers a fine game of golf without necessarily hitting the golfer over the head with wow factor. In this way CCC reminds me of many classic courses on average properties designed around sound strategies. 1*  2024





Thanks CD!

Previous stops on the tour

Palmetto Bluff Crossroads
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Colleton River Dye
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