[Thomas Dai]

Being a master of camouflage perhaps MacKenzie not only arranged for groundworks to hide or enhance features but he also arranged for numerous maps to be altered in such a way as to suggest that some cities, towns, counties even appeared to be be where they really aren't. This may well have included altering the Earths longitude and latitude.


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[Tony_Muldoon]

Muirfield and NBWL are both North of Liverpool but South of Edinburgh. 

OK, 50% right.




Whip round to get Mark a new Map book for Christmas?


Seasons Greetings all.

[Mark Pearce]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

[Adam Lawrence]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

No, though I have always found that going up the M6 if you're trying to get to Edinburgh is a PITA. It's certainly better than taking the M62/A1 but the transfer from west to east is not desperately straightforward.

[Sean_A]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

Yes, if going to Edinburgh. It’s not really any different to going to Silloth on the way to Glasgow.😎


Ciao

[Adam Lawrence]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

Yes, if going to Edinburgh. It’s not really any different to going to Silloth on the way to Glasgow.😎

Ciao

Googlemaps thinks going via the M62/A1 would add at least an hour and a half onto the journey from Southport to Edinburgh.

[Sean_A]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

Yes, if going to Edinburgh. It’s not really any different to going to Silloth on the way to Glasgow.

Ciao

Googlemaps thinks going via the M62/A1 would add at least an hour and a half onto the journey from Southport to Edinburgh.

Exactly. About the same as a detour to Silloth on the way to Glasgow.

Ciao

[Dan_Callahan]

Googlemaps thinks going via the M62/A1 would add at least an hour and a half onto the journey from Southport to Edinburgh.

Do you consider an hour and a half a huge that big of a detour? Hell, I detoured to Dornoch on a trip from Edinburgh to Isle of Skye. One of the best decisions I've ever made.

[Mark Pearce]

OK.  Point made.  Are any of you smart arses seriously suggesting that a sensible way to travel from Southport or Lytham to Edinburgh or Glasgow involves a route that goes anywhere near Leeds?

Yes, if going to Edinburgh. It’s not really any different to going to Silloth on the way to Glasgow.😎

Ciao

Googlemaps thinks going via the M62/A1 would add at least an hour and a half onto the journey from Southport to Edinburgh.

At least that, I'd have thought.  It'd be lunacy.  Then there's the detour to (say) Alwoodley, which must add another 40 minutes/an hour, so overall at least an hour more than going up the M6 and detouring via Silloth (30 minutes from the Carlisle junction of the M6)

[Duncan Cheslett]

Trying to see if there are any courses out there in that "no man's" land between Liverpool and say Edinburgh or Glascow.


Siloth comes to mind but was wondering if there were others.

I'm a member at Silloth and am always happy for the excuse to take the trip up there from Manchester. I'd be delighted to host you (or any other GCAers).  Just let me know when.

[Philip Caccamise]

Nobody's mentioned Ganton, which is one of my personal favorites.

[Ken Moum]

ver played those, but heard good things.

Toward Glasgow is East Renfrewshire. This course has intrigued me for sometime.

My wife and I played a Mixed Open there with the Lady Captain and her husband, it was very enjoyable.


Of course, I'd have loved to get on with him...he's a member at Western Gailes.

[Mark Pearce]

Nobody's mentioned Ganton, which is one of my personal favorites.

Ganton's a great golf course.  But an extraordinarily long detour for a journey from Southport to Edinburgh, let alone Glasgow!

[Adam Lawrence]

I suppose the whole detour aspect depends on why you are travelling from place A to place B. If I drive to Scotland, it's because I'm going somewhere, probably for work, and therefore I want to get there as quickly as possible, and an hour and a half's detour would be a terrible waste of time. But if I were on a golf trip, the same detour is pretty irrelevant, given that the reason I would make it is to stop for a game somewhere, which would take far more than an hour and a half anyway.

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