PGA to merge with LIV

[Jim Hoak]

John and Erik, you both make valid points.  But I have to say that professional golf is doing its best to cause me to lose interest.  It’s happened to me in other sports.  And I hate to see who will be the ultimate losers in all this, the charities who have relied on being the beneficiaries of the tournaments.  So, the players may win and make more money.  But the fans lose, the charities lose, the tournament volunteers lose. 
I will always love the game of my lifetime, and it won’t affect my regular games.  But I’m close to not caring to watch or follow the professional game.

[Tim_Cronin]

John's right in that any golf can be enjoyed no matter who's on the course. For the most static sport, a good broadcast can be enjoyable. I didn't know the LIV qualifier was on today or I'd have caught a bit of that during timeouts in the NFL game I was watching.


Sure, the majors are must-see TV. Always have been going back to the start of TV coverage. But as a kid, I'd watch the filmed "Challenge Golf" on ABC on Saturday and watch the replay again on Sunday. Golf endures, and will continue to.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

John and Erik, you both make valid points.  But I have to say that professional golf is doing its best to cause me to lose interest.

Oh, I don't watch much anymore myself. Too many commercials, too much nonsense, too much putting… etc. It's almost impossible to watch anymore.

[Pat Burke]

John and Erik, you both make valid points.  But I have to say that professional golf is doing its best to cause me to lose interest.

Oh, I don't watch much anymore myself. Too many commercials, too much nonsense, too much putting… etc. It's almost impossible to watch anymore.

Same here.


When I read Rahm signed, I had to search for the golf channel on my YouTubetv. It had been so long since I watched it, I didn’t know where it was!

[Dave Doxey]

John and Erik, you both make valid points.  But I have to say that professional golf is doing its best to cause me to lose interest.

Oh, I don't watch much anymore myself. Too many commercials, too much nonsense, too much putting… etc. It's almost impossible to watch anymore.

Same here.


When I read Rahm signed, I had to search for the golf channel on my YouTubetv. It had been so long since I watched it, I didn’t know where it was!

Same here also.


PGAT regular broadcasts are unwatchable as mentioned.  LIV at first was easy to find coverage on YouTube and LIV+, but they’ve managed to hide it now.


I watched majors to see the best golfers compete against one another.  It seems like even that is now gone.

[JohnVDB]

To me, most sports is background noise.  I have my TV on when I’m home and 90% of the time there is something sports related on. I’m usually doing something else then when something big happens I’ll watch the replay or even pay attention for a few minutes.


I’m really don’t root for anyone too much (well maybe the Dodgers )



Only the big games, races or majors really matter enough to keep my attention for long.

[Kalen Braley]

I don't know exactly how to interpret this, but it looks like the PGA Tour is seeking an alternate to merging with PIF? Which if true would likely end the cease fire? Thoughts?

https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/pga-tour-nearing-investment-deal-with-strategic-sports-group-amid-ongoing-talks-with-saudi-pif-per-reports/

[Jim_Coleman]

   Cease fire? Not sure Rahm got the message. Bullets have only flown one way.

[Kalen Braley]

I wonder if this will put an end to Captain America's lawsuit shenanigans..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/brandel-chamblee-takes-victory-lap-at-patrick-reed-s-expense-amid-judge-s-ironic-ruling/ar-AA1mANQA?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=c7593c542e8f49e8b6eaba5a34396f33&ei=15

[Niall C]

Apparently Reed's appealing.


Niall

[Charlie Goerges]

I wonder if this will put an end to Captain America's lawsuit shenanigans..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/brandel-chamblee-takes-victory-lap-at-patrick-reed-s-expense-amid-judge-s-ironic-ruling/ar-AA1mANQA?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=c7593c542e8f49e8b6eaba5a34396f33&ei=15

Couldn't happen to a nicer dude.

[David Cronan]

Larry Klayman representing Patrick Reed in a lawsuit for defamation of character.


This is like Alex Murdaugh representing Jeffrey Dahmer in a defamation lawsuit against Ms. Manners for saying he had bad table manners.

[Wayne_Kozun]

I wonder if this is going to change the dynamics of the LIV-PGATour merger, from todays' FT https://www.ft.com/content/e22b512e-f5c0-43d8-86ce-a9e014aa4e55

Saudi wealth fund brings era of easy money to an end - Once considered a cash cow by dealmakers, PIF has slowed spending on global investments, bankers say

For much of the past decade, Saudi Arabia has been a major draw for dealmakers, bankers and asset managers seeking capital as its ambitious sovereign wealth fund went on a multibillion-dollar global spending spree.

But as the kingdom reassesses its priorities and the $925bn Public Investment Fund shifts focus to huge domestic commitments, the era of Saudi Arabia being perceived as a source of easy money is drawing to a close.

“It is ending,” said a senior Dubai-based investment banker. “People are realising it.”

Fund managers, bankers and companies that sought to raise capital in the kingdom are already feeling the effects of the shift.

[Bill Seitz]

Why would this impact LIV?  I thought all the franchises were each worth billions of dollars?  That’s what they told me, at least.

[Rob Marshall]

Why would this impact LIV?  I thought all the franchises were each worth billions of dollars?  That’s what they told me, at least.

Pickleball Association's Bristol Open. The sport drew a whopping 295,000 viewers on Fox on Sunday. Yes, you read that right"”pickleball outdrew LIV Golf, leaving big-name stars like Brooks [/size]Koepka[/size] and Jon [/color][/size]Rahm[/size] wondering what went wrong.[/color]

[Wayne_Kozun]

Yes, the sport is not resonating with any fans and they can't be generating very much revenue at all, with the exception of a couple of events, like the one in Aus.  And it isn't like it is bringing any of tourism to Saudi Arabia. This doesn't seem to make as much sense as some of the other sports ventures that the Saudis have funded.