OT - Reed, Again

[Jim_Coleman]

   There must be someone here prepared to defend Reed this time, right?

[Ben Hollerbach]

Maybe he hit a ball in the 3rd tree during a practice round and that is what they found. Or maybe the rules official needs higher magnification binoculars.
Or maybe at this point you tell Reed to climb the tree and bring the ball down himself, anything short of that I'm going to presume you're lying.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

   The must be someone here prepared to defend Reed this time, right?

I think you could defend him if he said "yeah, that is my ball" or something, but the facts below really throw a wrench in anyone defending him (as I have done in the past):

• He said he "always" marks his ball with an arrow. Other photos show balls he's using the same day with no such marking.
• He said he's "100% certain" it was his ball, when he could have no such level of certainty… primarily because it's almost a 0% chance it's his ball.

Had he said: "Do we have video?" or "We all saw my ball go into the tree, not come out, there's a ball with a black line that is the same number and model of my golf ball" and let the RO decide if that was enough to positively identify, that'd be a whole other discussion. He didn't. He lied about the way he "always" marks his ball, and he said "100%" with regards to his identification.

[Steve Lang]

   I thought no one cared about LIV Golf, its just an exhibition... not pga stuff

[Jim_Coleman]

  This wasn’t a LIV event.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

  I thought no one cared about LIV Golf, its just an exhibition... not pga stuff

DP World Tour event that Rory won.

[John Kavanaugh]

We need villains instead of Batman and Robin alone in a hot tub.

[Charlie Goerges]

We need villains instead of Batman and Robin alone in a hot tub.

My wife would be more likely to watch the latter.

[Rob Marshall]

I'm surprised no one went out to the tree the video showed his ball going into after the round and looked for his ball.

[Sean_A]

I looked at the video and couldn't say with any certainty where the ball finished.

I thought players announced their ball and marking on the 1st tee? If so, wouldn't other players be able to at least repeat the make, number and marking...assuming one could see that far up the tree?  If not, players should be more aware of each other's ball so they can at least offer an opinion for identification. Pro players are so detached from each other that its hard to believe they can really attest cards with much level confidence. 

Ciao

[John Kavanaugh]

We need villains instead of Batman and Robin alone in a hot tub.

My wife would be more likely to watch the latter.

I’m going to go hit balls to try to get that image out of my head.

[Ben Hollerbach]

I looked at the video and couldn't say with any certainty where the ball finished.

I thought players announced their ball and marking on the 1st tee? If so, wouldn't other players be able to at least repeat the make, number and marking...assuming one could see that far up the tree?  If not, players should be more aware of each other's ball so they can at least offer an opinion for identification. Pro players are so detached from each other that its hard to believe they can really attest cards with much level confidence. 

Ciao

This video slows it down and show's the ball entering the front of the first tree.
What happened on Patrick Reed's tree shot in Dubai?

[John Kavanaugh]

Are the Eagles the bad guys cause I love them.

[Sean_A]

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I looked at the video and couldn't say with any certainty where the ball finished.

I thought players announced their ball and marking on the 1st tee? If so, wouldn't other players be able to at least repeat the make, number and marking...assuming one could see that far up the tree?  If not, players should be more aware of each other's ball so they can at least offer an opinion for identification. Pro players are so detached from each other that its hard to believe they can really attest cards with much level confidence. 

Ciao

This video slows it down and show's the ball entering the front of the first tree.
What happened on Patrick Reed's tree shot in Dubai?

Link doesn't work. If it's the same video Brandel used I can't see the ball get stuck in a tree.

Ciao

[John Kavanaugh]

FIFA would have had “volunteers” in the trees.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

I thought players announced their ball and marking on the 1st tee?

This is not required at all under the Rules of Golf. Nor do you have to announce to the group when you're changing balls, markings, etc.

You only have to be able to identify your own golf ball.

[Rob Marshall]

Reeds playing partner said the ball only had a red dot.

[Ben Sims]

The guy just can’t help himself. I think the hate motivates him and he genuinely thinks he’s doing the right thing, day in day out, and if that doesn’t please everyone so be it. To an extent, lots of athletes are like. The recently departed QB of my beloved Bulldogs seems to be of this mindset. Me against the world.


I am a believer in karma though. The the make rate on 14ft putts isn’t all that high. Good win for Rory.

[John Kavanaugh]

He’s Paulie Walnuts. Why not allow yourself to be entertained?

[Steve Lapper]

He’s Paulie Walnuts. Why not allow yourself to be entertained?

John,

Please stop slandering one of New Jersey's finest "characters." Paulie lived by a code of honor and would never sue everyone for sport!

[Paul Jones]

I did not see the event... but if he called in a rules official and was guided the proper way to proceed, not sure what the problem was unless he lied to the rules official.

[Kalen Braley]

The PGAtour is grateful to LIV for at least one reason...

Right about now they sitting at HQ in Sawgrass, knocking back a few cold ones, thinking, "I'm sure glad we got rid of that jack wagon" 

[Jerry Kluger]

My understanding is that you state the ball and number you are playing on the first tee to make sure someone else in your group is not playing the same ball.  With provisionals don't you tell the others in your group what the first ball was and what the second ball you are about to hit is?

[Paul Jones]

My understanding is that you state the ball and number you are playing on the first tee to make sure someone else in your group is not playing the same ball.  With provisionals don't you tell the others in your group what the first ball was and what the second ball you are about to hit is?

Jerry,


That is what probably should be done every time, but not required.  An issue is when 2 identical balls are found with identical markings in the same area. 

[Sean_A]

I thought players announced their ball and marking on the 1st tee?

This is not required at all under the Rules of Golf. Nor do you have to announce to the group when you're changing balls, markings, etc.

You only have to be able to identify your own golf ball.

Thanks 👍

Ciao