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Tommy Williamsen

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How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« on: July 10, 2021, 10:14:20 AM »
I have a friend that belonged to a 100 year old club in Chicago that closed a year ago or so. I used to belong to a club in Baltimore that went NLE forty years ago (Dulaney Valley). I belonged to a club that closed one of its courses (All View) and another (Turf Valley) that closed two of its courses. I have a friend that was part owner of two courses outside Ocean City, MD. Both are gone. Closing courses is nothing new but the pace, as we all know, has accelerated. We have chronicled the plight of Metacomet.


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Robin_Hiseman

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2021, 11:00:45 AM »
I was a member at Letham Grange. Very sad t see it go. It was one of the best inland courses in Scotland.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2021, 11:09:31 AM »
I was a member of a short lived course near where I grew up. Not sure which came first. The owners decision to become a Coke head or a course owner. Either way it was a poor mix.

Steve Lang

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2021, 11:16:26 AM »
 8)  Never joined, but invested a lot of rounds in two Doak NLE's throughout their existence and a little after, Black Forest at Wilderness Valley and HighPointe...  such a shame!  Unfortunately we have to drive by the latter every time we head into Traverse City on M-72 and be reminded of it...just have to shake my head...
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2021, 12:43:37 PM »
8)  Never joined, but invested a lot of rounds in two Doak NLE's throughout their existence and a little after, Black Forest at Wilderness Valley and HighPointe...  such a shame!  Unfortunately we have to drive by the latter every time we head into Traverse City on M-72 and be reminded of it...just have to shake my head...


I played High Pointe everytime I went up north as well. Too bad Grand Traverse didn't buy it.
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Lou_Duran

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 01:04:47 PM »
Great Southwest GC, one of Ralph Plummer's best (once considered in the same company as Preston Trail, Champions, and Colonial), was devalued greatly when a new owner bought the course and simultaneously sold around 20 acres to an apartment developer, modifying four holes and shrinking the course by 300 yards.  It was later "modernized" by Jeff Brauer which improved the course to be re-sold and subsequently purchased by a REIT (TEE) controlled by American Golf.  The course was sold again some 8 years ago to a warehouse developer for over $2 Million more than its valuation as a golf course.  Even in its diminished state, it was always held in high regard as a player's course and a high-stakes gambling venue.  The former mayor of the city of Grand Prairie whose townhome abutted the property later lamented that the failure to pass a tree ordinance like that of Dallas paved the way for the destruction of thousands of specimen oak and pecan trees, and their inability to stop the site's redevelopment in court.  Ironically, the strip of land well below the grade of his property is flood prone and undevelopable, making the once nicely mown, tree-lined adjoining holes into weed fields.  At least the beautiful pecans and oaks in that area remain.     

Mike_Clayton

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2021, 07:32:47 PM »
I grew up in a house on the back of Eastern GC in Melbourne. It was hilly, maligned by many but it had a bunch of really good holes and was a great place to learn how to play.
The members sold up a decade ago for $100 million and moved 35 minutes away to a Greg Norman course.
I have always thought it could have made a brilliant 12-hole course and they could have sold of three bad holes at the back of the course to fund it and survive where they were.
Of course, that's an impossible sell when there is so much money on the table and it's covered in houses now.


Wayne_Kozun

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2021, 10:40:01 PM »
Here in the Toronto area some folks are joining courses in the hopes that they go NLE and that they make a few hundred $k in the process.  Case in point - Beacon Hall that just barely voted not to sell to a developer although there may be another round.

Paul Carey

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2021, 08:29:14 AM »
I grew up next to Georgetown Prep School that had a par 35 nine hole course.  I started playing golf there by getting access by picking up trash on the course two days a week.  Later I worked on the maintenance staff in college and grad school.  15-20 years ago they sold off part of the land to fund a new gym and athletic fields. Although a grad I haven’t given them a dime since then and I don’t enjoy going back to the campus.


The golf course was designed by Frank Abbot, considered the father of junior golf in America.  It was a fun and sporty nine hole.

Buck Wolter

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2021, 09:42:42 AM »
My home course in my youth was Sunkissed Meadows in Fort Dodge IA -- lighted par 3 course in the rough part of town. Site of my only hole in one* on my 18th birthday. Not even sure when it closed but it was an awesome place as everything else was a car ride away.
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Carl Rogers

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2021, 11:04:53 AM »
What this thread reinforces is the fact then when non-golf people control golf ... then watch out.


My friend Scott Weersing and played 3 rounds at Beechtree 6 weeks prior to closing.
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Stewart Abramson

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2021, 11:49:16 AM »
I joined Minisceongo (located 25 miles north of NYC; owned by Eric Bergstol) the year before it closed. They had some offers to join that were very inexpensive. Went back to my old club after Mini closed. It was in a pretty setting but was too tight and wet with a number of target style holes, so not my favorite, but it was only 5 minutes from my then home. It was sold to a real estate developer. Five years later I think it is overgrown with no development having started.


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Paul Jones

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2021, 01:44:33 PM »
I grew up on a 9 hole course - Iberia Golf and CC that is now a subdivision.  I was also a member at Lanier GC in Georgia.
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JohnVDB

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Re: How many of you have belonged to a club that went NLE?
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2021, 02:14:55 PM »
In the 60s my parents were members of a private course in the hills above Milpitas.  I was called Mission San Jose I believe.  It folded fairly quickly.


In the late 70s a new course called Tularcitos was opened there and the routing looks very similar. That course is now called Bay View Golf Club