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Bill Shamleffer

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Seve
« on: May 05, 2021, 08:42:06 AM »
This Friday is 10th anniversary of passing of Seve.  :(


https://www.theopen.com/Latest/Seve-Ballesteros-celebrated-10-years-on
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JMEvensky

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Re: Seve
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 09:15:15 AM »
Thanks for posting. Hopefully Mike Clayton will see this and share some anecdotes.
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 11:40:32 AM »
There is a nice collection of stories about Seve from his caddies on youtube.

Billy Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrP5R3gFAgo

Ian Wright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwXkATS-yw

Dave Musgrove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9jTrXCpQYs

Nick De Paul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6yHOVuKbWM
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Seve
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 12:16:25 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on May 05, 2021, 11:40:32 AM
There is a nice collection of stories about Seve from his caddies on youtube.

Billy Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrP5R3gFAgo

Ian Wright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwXkATS-yw

Dave Musgrove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9jTrXCpQYs

Nick De Paul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6yHOVuKbWM




Thanks for posting this.
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 11:00:55 AM »
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 11:06:31 AM »
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Seve
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2021, 05:17:40 PM »
Seve in sand-art tribute - https://www.theopen.com/Latest/Seve-Sand-Art - :)
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« Last Edit: May 08, 2021, 02:44:36 AM by Thomas Dai »
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2021, 09:33:28 AM »
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Seve
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2021, 04:43:13 PM »
There are very few that I enjoyed watching more than Seve. He might not have been in a class by himself, but it didn't take long to call the roll.
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Seve
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2021, 01:18:40 AM »
Quote from: JMEvensky on May 05, 2021, 09:15:15 AM
Thanks for posting. Hopefully Mike Clayton will see this and share some anecdotes.


JME


I once asked him what was the best shot he ever hit.
Without hesitation it was "The chip at Lytham" (88 Open 72nd hole)
"What about the 3 wood out of the bunker at the Ryder Cup? (1983 Florida)
"That was for the team - the chip was for me"


He was a remarkable player - for me the best I've seen to just watch play golf. Tiger's golf was probably better but at that level their best was absolutely comparable. But given the choice I'd watch Seve.
I've been lucky enough to watch them play great golf at Royal Melbourne and it shows how much better professional golf is when it's played on great golf courses.
Perhaps surprisingly the next two players I'd pick for great Royal Melbourne golf were Hale Irwin (64 in R1 1978) and Lydia Ko - Australian Open 2014.
But MacKenzie built that place for Seve - he just didn't know it at the time.
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JMEvensky

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Re: Seve
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2021, 05:55:56 AM »
Quote from: Mike_Clayton on May 10, 2021, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: JMEvensky on May 05, 2021, 09:15:15 AM
Thanks for posting. Hopefully Mike Clayton will see this and share some anecdotes.


JME


I once asked him what was the best shot he ever hit.
Without hesitation it was "The chip at Lytham" (88 Open 72nd hole)
"What about the 3 wood out of the bunker at the Ryder Cup? (1983 Florida)
"That was for the team - the chip was for me"


He was a remarkable player - for me the best I've seen to just watch play golf. Tiger's golf was probably better but at that level their best was absolutely comparable. But given the choice I'd watch Seve.
I've been lucky enough to watch them play great golf at Royal Melbourne and it shows how much better professional golf is when it's played on great golf courses.
Perhaps surprisingly the next two players I'd pick for great Royal Melbourne golf were Hale Irwin (64 in R1 1978) and Lydia Ko - Australian Open 2014.
But MacKenzie built that place for Seve - he just didn't know it at the time.






I was hoping you'd jump in--thanks.


I think I remember you once posting SB was the only man to win at RM-W, ANGC, and TOC. Makes me think the horses/courses idea is accurate.
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Seve
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2021, 06:14:22 AM »
Quote from: JMEvensky on May 10, 2021, 05:55:56 AM
Quote from: Mike_Clayton on May 10, 2021, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: JMEvensky on May 05, 2021, 09:15:15 AM
Thanks for posting. Hopefully Mike Clayton will see this and share some anecdotes.


JME


I once asked him what was the best shot he ever hit.
Without hesitation it was "The chip at Lytham" (88 Open 72nd hole)
"What about the 3 wood out of the bunker at the Ryder Cup? (1983 Florida)
"That was for the team - the chip was for me"


He was a remarkable player - for me the best I've seen to just watch play golf. Tiger's golf was probably better but at that level their best was absolutely comparable. But given the choice I'd watch Seve.
I've been lucky enough to watch them play great golf at Royal Melbourne and it shows how much better professional golf is when it's played on great golf courses.
Perhaps surprisingly the next two players I'd pick for great Royal Melbourne golf were Hale Irwin (64 in R1 1978) and Lydia Ko - Australian Open 2014.
But MacKenzie built that place for Seve - he just didn't know it at the time.






I was hoping you'd jump in--thanks.


I think I remember you once posting SB was the only man to win at RM-W, ANGC, and TOC. Makes me think the horses/courses idea is accurate.




Yes -Seve is the only one to win at RM (Composite) St Andrews and Augusta.


Of course Jack would have done it if he'd bothered -there were plenty of tournaments at RM in the 70s when he was at his best.  Tiger too obviously.
Faldo had plenty of tries at RM without winning. Watson won at RM and Augusta. Maybe Zac Johnson should have paid more attention to RM - he could have joined a pretty special club.

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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Seve
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2021, 08:29:58 PM »
Paul Daley has a book about Seve coming out this December. "Seve, The People's Champion" is fully supported by the Seve Ballesteros Foundation. It will be a leather bound limited edition, with a run of 1,000. $AU185 in Australia. $AU215 elsewhere. About 320 pages, 80,000 words, 280 photos.


Paul can be reached at fswing@bigpond.net.au


« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 02:24:56 PM by Pete_Pittock »
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2021, 08:51:34 PM »
« Last Edit: October 12, 2021, 08:59:20 PM by David_Tepper »
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Seve
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2021, 11:21:17 PM »
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Seve
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2021, 06:00:29 AM »
Well worth a listen - https://good-good.fireside.fm/93 - a Seve podcast with Paul Daley.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Seve
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2021, 04:59:57 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on October 12, 2021, 08:29:58 PM
Paul Daley has a book about Seve coming out this December. "Seve, The People's Champion" is fully supported by the Seve Ballesteros Foundation. It will be a leather bound limited edition, with a run of 1,000. $AU185 in Australia. $AU215 elsewhere. About 320 pages, 80,000 words, 280 photos.


Paul can be reached at fswing@bigpond.net.au
Update on book status. 
Supply chain victim. The books are on board a ship in Singapore harbor.  Should arrive in Australia mid-January.
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Seve
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2021, 08:36:42 PM »
Supply chain problem, tell me about. Try and find candy kisses.
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David_Tepper

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Re: Seve
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2021, 06:58:33 PM »
British golf photographer David Cannon has also published a book about Seve:

https://www.sevethebook.com/


He recently did a Cookie Jar Golf podcast to talk about it:

https://cookiejargolf.com/112-seve-ballesteros-with-david-cannon/

I have a copy of the book. It is quite good.
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