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Michael Moore

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How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They’re Built
« on: March 22, 2021, 09:10:35 PM »
Time capsules . . . the intent of the architect . . . the original questions asked by a hole. I don't get it.
 
Stewart Brand wrote a truly fascinating book about how buildings inevitably change over time for any number of reasons. The same has to be true about golf courses. Is there a similar book about what happens to golf courses after they are built? What would a golf course learn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEqfg2sIH0
Metaphor is social and shares the table with the objects it intertwines and the attitudes it reconciles. Opinion, like the Michelin inspector, dines alone. - Adam Gopnik, The Table Comes First

Tom_Doak

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Re: How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They’re Built
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2021, 11:58:18 AM »
"Only one in ten buildings have been revisited by the architect after they have been in occupation.  It begs the question, how can we know how people react to detail design features, if we don't go and revisit the scene of the crime?"


Ouch!

Carl Rogers

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Re: How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They’re Built
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2021, 04:02:09 PM »
The building ownership changes.
The building use changes.
The building's neighborhood changes.
People adapt the building to all the changes.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They’re Built
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2021, 05:45:20 PM »
Ah, good old Bucky Fuller.  Went to see one of his lectures in college.  The geodesic dome.  Not surprised to see it was a fad and not a trend. 


The biggest lesson I learned from that talk was after his slide carousel dropped on the floor, extending the lecture time by half an hour as he scrambled to put them back in some order.  Never trust slides or projectors when making a big presentation!


I think Jack Nicklaus had it in his early contracts he could go back and make changes, of course at Owner's expense, and probably intended to further implement the 'grand master's vision" as opposed to really learning how the design worked for its end users, a more humble and educational way for a designer to evaluate their work.


I do recall that the Chicago Park District let new landscape architects go nuts on designing their first playground project.  But then, they made them go out and sit and watch it being used periodically for a year.  An LA friend of mine who took that job said he really learned how to design after that.  Forget the pretty pictures, worry about placing viewing benches for parents that didn't face the west sun, always have a clear view line for parents, etc.  And make sure there aren't any hidden corners where evil people might be able to lurk.


I like the film's mention of rules of thumb, which only change slowly.  That happens in gca as well.  While many here call it standardization and formula, its most often something that has worked for 50 years or more, so why reinvent the wheel, at least for artistic reasons. Round wheels still work best, water flows down hill, etc.  Every so often someone should and will challenge conventional wisdom - and I suspect its often the manufacturers of irrigation, drainage, seed, etc., that make those changes happen as design evolves with technology.
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Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Mark_Fine

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Re: How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They’re Built
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2021, 06:58:04 PM »
Interesting video.  I wish I could post photos of the one green I was working on today.  I think when it was snow covered you could ski down it  :D   Some things eventually no longer serve their primary function.  If you dropped a golf ball in the middle (even now with no grown over the winter, the ball might roll all the way off the front).  It needed to be changed but hopefully when we are done, few will ever know we touched it.  They will think the super is mowing it different so balls don't roll off anymore!