So How does BDC take a 7 at #3 @ AGNC?

[Mike Bodo]

BDC has the anger face of a new bride.

LOL!! Looks as though he's going to survive the cut and live to play the weekend.

[ward peyronnin]

DC:“I mean, definitely throws you for a loop when the guy goes and gives you the ball on the fourth tee box. ’Oh, I found it.’ You know, I struggle whenever we know it’s in that area and it’s all wet and it’s a plugged lie, guaranteed,” DeChambeau said. ”And they don’t give you—they have to say it’s within a couple foot area. I’m like, ‘Well, I know it’s in this area that’s plugged, so I would think I would get some relief,’ but clearly not. The three minutes was up, so I took a penalty and went back to the tee box and proceeded to hit in the same spot and had a really bad lie after that.”
Why? because I hit the ball so far or things are so different this tournament?. I still say he should have known the risks and he shouldn't whine or misrepresent the applicable rule . Bet he'd nail the rule if it worked to his advantage. Also unless declared by the committee plugged balls only merit relief in closely mown areas, IDK what sit is.

[Lou_Duran]

The embedded ball rule, Ward, is the opposite- a ball embedded in the GA can be lifted w/o penalty, but the committee can impose a local rule limiting relief to balls embedded in closely mown areas.


I think that BDC was not treated fairly.  The officials had access to TV guidance and there is no reason why someone was not stationed in the area around the green that could have been looking for the ball while the players were walking.  Additionally, the intent of the ACC rule is to provide relief in extreme circumstances.  Not all areas of ACC can be marked, especially after the heavy Wednesday and Thursday rains.  IMO, for ANGC, this situation merited relief- and the Committee could have granted it- the ball was barely off the fairway as evidenced by TV replays, the ground was soggy with temporary water in the immediate area, and the rough had gotten away from the superintendent, highly uncharacteristic for the Masters.


The 3-minute rule is one of several that needs to be reconsidered.  Taking BDC back to the tee took exponentially more time than had he been allowed the extra time to look for it.  Would the USGA and the club prefer that he hit a provisional every time he doesn't pipe one down the middle?  The rules, IMO, are to facilitate fair play, which is different than to punish.


As to how BDC reacted, I've seen far, far worse reactions in much lesser events.  I know you dinkers don't like the guy, but maybe he too is deserving of some grace?  The excitement he brings to golf is incomparable to all but a relative few of his peers.  How many fans are drawn to the Masters by good guys like Mike Weir or Zach Johnson?     

[Kalen Braley]

Lou,

I think you got us wrong, us dinkers don't dislike BDC, its mostly quite the opposite.

He's like a roided out 2.0 version of Phil Mickelson where you never knew what was coming next, but you could almost always be sure he was gonna go full Roy McAvoy at some point. He's gonna win a lot and demolish many fields like Phil did... but... in car racing terms where 100k+ fans pack the stands to watch cars drive in circles for 4 hours, BDC is the proverbial wreck just waiting to happen, and you dare not take your eyes off him.

P.S.  And yes, we all secretly wish we could mash those 350+ yard drives, even if we occasionally bemoan it!

[Sean_A]

The embedded ball rule, Ward, is the opposite- a ball embedded in the GA can be lifted w/o penalty, but the committee can impose a local rule limiting relief to balls embedded in closely mown areas.


I think that BDC was not treated fairly.  The officials had access to TV guidance and there is no reason why someone was not stationed in the area around the green that could have been looking for the ball while the players were walking.  Additionally, the intent of the ACC rule is to provide relief in extreme circumstances.  Not all areas of ACC can be marked, especially after the heavy Wednesday and Thursday rains.  IMO, for ANGC, this situation merited relief- and the Committee could have granted it- the ball was barely off the fairway as evidenced by TV replays, the ground was soggy with temporary water in the immediate area, and the rough had gotten away from the superintendent, highly uncharacteristic for the Masters.


The 3-minute rule is one of several that needs to be reconsidered.  Taking BDC back to the tee took exponentially more time than had he been allowed the extra time to look for it.  Would the USGA and the club prefer that he hit a provisional every time he doesn't pipe one down the middle?  The rules, IMO, are to facilitate fair play, which is different than to punish.


As to how BDC reacted, I've seen far, far worse reactions in much lesser events.  I know you dinkers don't like the guy, but maybe he too is deserving of some grace?  The excitement he brings to golf is incomparable to all but a relative few of his peers.  How many fans are drawn to the Masters by good guys like Mike Weir or Zach Johnson?     

Sweet Lou

That is a high horse post. The same thing could have happened to anybody. Why can't this just be a bad break and move on. Everything doesn't need a retrospective solution to meet an ever changing standard of justice in sport.

I do however, agree that talk of living and dying by the sword is nonsense.

Ciao

[jeffwarne]

Lou,
I've been saying 3 minutes is too short since they changed the rule.
By the time you realize you have a problem, (Bryson's being a prime example as he had no idea it could be lost) you've already used precious time.
If this were a State Am, or a MET PGA even, the rest of the group would be over playing their shot while you went over to your ball.(and begin a search you didn't realize you had)
Suddenly a minute or 2 has gone by and by the time help arrives you've got 30 seconds left with the 3 minute rule, rather than 2 1/2 minutes(with help) under the 5 minute scenario.
Experienced players have learned not to "begin" a search until help has arrived, further slowing play overall.
With 5 minutes, you wave the group behind up, with three you might not as the last few seconds become frantic and you're not wasting precious seconds on a waveup-especially if you haven't realized you might need a provisional.(It happens)
For casual play I get it, especially if playing the new drop rule, but I've yet to play an event where that was in play.