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Thomas Dai

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Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« on: January 05, 2020, 03:34:06 PM »
Here are a collection of now coloured old b&w photos of clubhouses as they once were.
It's worth bearing in mind that Clubhouse fires were not unknown and that several of the buildings seen below were destroyed by fire and rebuilt in a different style.
Also some venues Clubhouses are shown more than once as they have over time been developed, been replaced or have re-located.
I have named the venues I know. Those unnamed I don't know. Others have the name printed within the photo.
Enjoy
atb

Three photos of St Andrews with OTM, Harry Vardon etc




Biarritz with Arnold Massy of France, the first player from the Continent of Europe to win The Open


Royal North Devon at Westward Ho!



Saunton


Cruden Bay - the 'Pink Palace' hotel on the hill and the Pavilion down below.



Carnoustie 1960's


Royal St David's at Harlech. The CH is the building at ground level not the older stone built one on top of the hill!


Riviera


Gleneagles



Blackwell


Machrihanish


Nairn


Baltusrol


Portmarnock


Chevy Chase


Minchinhampton (Old)


Aberdovey



Carnoustie 1930's


Le Tourquet


Royal Sydney 1937


Blairgowrie-Rosemount


Prestwick


Southerndown


Radyr (Cardiff)


Royal Porthcawl


Formby and Formby Ladies



Auchtermuchty


Ballater


Turnberry



Wallasey


Criccieth


Brora


Pitlochry



Troon (aka Royal Troon)


Port Seton


Kington


Welshpool



Leven


Leominster


Ashley Park


Tiree


Royal Portrush


Malvern (The Worcestershire)


Royal Melbourne circa 1910



Peninsula, Victoria, 1937


Yarra, Yarra. 1930's


Victoria GC 1930's


Royal Queensland, Brisbane



New South Wales, Sydney, 1931


Barwon Heads, 1952


Royal West Norfolk, Brancaster


More to follow.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 05:37:37 PM by Thomas Dai »

Tom_Doak

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2020, 05:01:05 PM »
The photo of "The Australian" is actually Royal Sydney, but I think all the others are correct.


Where was Criccieth?  I have never seen that name before.

Daryl David

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2020, 05:20:01 PM »
Looks like large ornate clubhouses are not a modern phenomenon.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2020, 05:35:04 PM »
The photo of "The Australian" is actually Royal Sydney, but I think all the others are correct.
Where was Criccieth?  I have never seen that name before.


Thanks about RS, correction made above.
Criccieth is in North Wales, between Harlech and Nefyn. It was the town where British Prime Minister David Lloyd George lived and represented. The Club/course closed fairly recently.
Some further info and quite a few nice photos here.
https://www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk/index.php/wales-64/1839-wales-criccieth-golf-club
Atb
« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 05:38:26 PM by Thomas Dai »

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2020, 05:43:05 PM »
Looks like large ornate clubhouses are not a modern phenomenon.
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The olden day small wooden pavilion buildings are pretty cool though and some of them, like for example Welshpool still exit. Some may ask whether we really need a Clubhouse that provides more than they do.
Atb

Lou_Duran

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2020, 06:22:42 PM »
David Thomas,


Thanks for your great effort in putting these pictorials together.  They go a long ways in demonstrating that golf and its courses have been widely varied from the beginning. 


Many people have the impression that American golf is all about spending money and emphasizing opulence.  One of the things that I've discovered in my travels is that golf is indeed a big world (with reference to Tom Paul). 


Many years ago while playing the Jockey Club I was struck by the infrastructure of the club, an impressive large clubhouse and amenities uncommon even in the U.S.  Sadly, the economy was in a shambles and the course itself was very rough around the edges.


More recently, I've been playing in an annual event at a private club in Mexico which has the most complete amenities that I've ever seen (and I've played close to 1k courses).  As I recall, the club employs over 500 people.


Then you have a course like Mulranny which had an honor box for green fees and snacks in a very serviceable tiny manufactured home type of clubhouse.   It worked extremely well and probably added to the experience.


Bottom line, clubhouses, extent of amenities and levels of service mostly reflect the desires and means of the membership, its clientele.  I've been around the block a few times and with one rare exception, I can't recall anyone ever mentioning the Augusta National Syndrome or any attempts to mimic Masters conditions.  Oh, that rare exception was a course founded by an ANGC member whose father was chairman for a number of years.  No doubt that they have the means to accomplish it.








Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »
Here are some more.
atb


Royal Melbourne circa 1909



Sorrento



Abersoch



Forfar



Kilmacolm



Littlehampton



Crystal Downs



Carradale



Cannes



Shelter Island



Turnberry



Reigate Heath



Broadstone



South Hayling (Island)



Camberley Heath



Golspie



Lundin Links



Walton Heath



Frinton



Glenfarg



Shanghai



Woodhall Spa



Fortrose & Rosemarkie



Elie



Yarra Yarra - early



Yarra Yarra -bit later on



More to follow

David_Tepper

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 04:04:08 PM »
I think the pic of the Golspie clubhouse was the club's 2nd one. The original clubhouse was between what is now the 3rd tee and the water. It was lost to coastal erosion. The building in the pic was on the inland side of Little Ferry Road, across from what is now the 2nd hole. That building (or a large portion of it) is still standing and is a private home. There is a sign on it that says "The Old Clubhouse." 


archie_struthers

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2020, 08:48:25 AM »
 ;)


That clubhouse at Riviera immediately looks so much like the clubhouse at Gulfstream Golf Club in Florida. Style so similar yet on opposite coasts. Addison Mizner designed Gulfstream and I'm guessing Indian Creek too, gotta check.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2020, 08:52:43 AM by archie_struthers »

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2020, 02:56:50 PM »
A few more.
atb


Portmarnock



Moor Park



Riverside



Wollongong



Cooden Beach



Kington



Welshpool



Church Stretton



Llandrindod Wells



Alnmouth Village



Royal St George's



Worcester, USA



Worcester UK (aka Boughton Park)



Stanmore



Woking



Verulam



Princes



Cromer (Royal)



Trevose



Musselburgh



Knocke-Zoute



Mundesley



Hunstanton



Oban



Saunton



Granville



More to follow.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2020, 01:01:55 PM »
Another batch.
atb


Royal Birkdale



Royal Lytham & St Anne's



Royal West Norfolk at Brancaster



Royal Birkdale



Cruden Bay



Banff Springs



Royal Porthcawl



Royal Dublin



County Sligo at Rosses Point



Cavendish



Arbroath



LLanymynech



ANGC with friends



Long Ashton, Bristol



Royal Liverpool at Hoylake



ANGC



Littlestone



Sunningdale



Carnoustie



More to follow.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 12:01:28 PM by Thomas Dai »

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2020, 04:28:43 PM »
Well that is an extraordinary piece of work. It's fun to see. Thanks.
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MClutterbuck

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2020, 04:48:07 PM »
What happened to the large building at Cruden Bay?

David Harshbarger

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2020, 06:34:06 PM »
Scrolling through the collection of shanties and shacks and estate home, I have to say this one jumped out:



Is/was the Royal Birkdale club as hep and modern as their house?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 11:31:06 AM by David Harshbarger »
The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2020, 05:57:23 AM »
Scrolling through the collection of shanties and shacks and estate home, I have to say this one jumped out:



Is/was the Royal Lytham club as hep and modern as their house?


This is the current Clubhouse at Royal Birkdale. It was built in the mid/late 1930’s to replace the earlier version a photo of which I shall post soon.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2020, 06:07:02 AM »
What happened to the large building at Cruden Bay?


It was a hotel built by a railway company for well-to-do folk and tourists and was known anecdotally as ‘The Pink Palace’. Tournaments involving the lines of Vardon and Taylor were held there in the early 1900’s. Gradually, WW1, the economic depression of the late 1920’s/1930’s etc it became less and less popular. During WW2 the military used it. It was dismantled in the 1950’s and the stone, rare pink granite, was used for other building purposes. The footing stones for the building were still visible until the new clubhouse and nearby houses were built. It must have been quite a sight in its early days glistening in the sun.
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2020, 08:29:02 AM »
What happened to the large building at Cruden Bay?


It was a hotel built by a railway company for well-to-do folk and tourists and was known anecdotally as ‘The Pink Palace’. Tournaments involving the lines of Vardon and Taylor were held there in the early 1900’s. Gradually, WW1, the economic depression of the late 1920’s/1930’s etc it became less and less popular. During WW2 the military used it. It was dismantled in the 1950’s and the stone, rare pink granite, was used for other building purposes. The footing stones for the building were still visible until the new clubhouse and nearby houses were built. It must have been quite a sight in its early days glistening in the sun.
Atb
Thomas are golf clubhouses one of your hobbies?  It must have taken quite a while to find out all the information and I'm thinking it was aggregated over years. Are there some sources you use for such exercises where these are catalogued?
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2020, 08:48:13 AM »
Jeff,
Old photos of CH’s and golf generally especially of courses are an interest and were collated over time and coloured to try and enhance any features that would otherwise be missed. History tells us a lot. And is frequently repeated. As to sources, nothing clever really, I just spot things and if necessary internet search engines are surprisingly good although sometimes they can produce bizarre, erratic and unexpected results.
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Anthony Gholz

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2020, 11:19:47 AM »
Dave:  jasper park is actually Banff Springs?  Anthony

David Harshbarger

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2020, 11:32:31 AM »

This is the current Clubhouse at Royal Birkdale. It was built in the mid/late 1930’s to replace the earlier version a photo of which I shall post soon.
Atb


Doh! 

The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

MClutterbuck

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2020, 12:09:16 PM »
What happened to the large building at Cruden Bay?


It was a hotel built by a railway company for well-to-do folk and tourists and was known anecdotally as ‘The Pink Palace’. Tournaments involving the lines of Vardon and Taylor were held there in the early 1900’s. Gradually, WW1, the economic depression of the late 1920’s/1930’s etc it became less and less popular. During WW2 the military used it. It was dismantled in the 1950’s and the stone, rare pink granite, was used for other building purposes. The footing stones for the building were still visible until the new clubhouse and nearby houses were built. It must have been quite a sight in its early days glistening in the sun.
Atb


Thanks! Interesting, I had no idea.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2020, 12:29:15 PM »
Some more.
Banff Springs correction made.
atb


Dyffryn



Sutton-on-Sea



Warminster



Nigg



Birkdale pre-1935



Ganton



Cullen



Stinchcombe Hill



Porthmadoc



Strathpeffer



Exeter



Helensburgh



East Devon (Budleigh Salterton)



Banff Springs



Royal Porthcawl



St Enodoc (2)




Royal Melbourne



ANGC



Mar del Plata (2)




St Andrews



Ardglass



Moray (Lossiemouth]

Thomas Dai

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2020, 10:58:13 AM »
A few more old b&w photos of Clubhouses, hotels etc now coloured.
Enjoy.
atb


Brora



Rosapenna (hotel) - outside and inside





Roof top golf (1930's London)




Hunstanton



St Austell, Cornwall



Westward Ho!/RND pre -WW2



Falkirk



Brisbane



Invergordon



Kirriemuir



West Kilbride



Malvern/The Worcestershire



Cruden Bay hotel



Ranfurly Castle



Alcester



Sornborn Castle



San Andres, Bogota



San Andres, Buenos Aires



Wrangaton

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2020, 02:56:25 AM »
Wollongong


Thanks Thomas

My original golf club Wollongong, NSW, Australia - the course itself dates back to 1897. I believe the original clubhouse was built in the 1920's.

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Clubhouses as they once were - old photos
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2020, 07:53:39 PM »
Here are some photos of various versions of Deal's house... colored by the magic fingers of Thomas Dai






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