What are These at Kapalua?

[Erik J. Barzeski]

At about 0:51 in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRqDuhAbIrg

You'll see this:


I know this is a dumb question to those who know… but what are these? I get that they're French drain lines, but what are they going to be under? Four bunkers? If so, what is the space between them for? Is one of those going to be under a green, and if so, again, what's the space between them for? Or are they bunkers on adjoining fairways or something? Or not even bunkers at all?

The scale is throwing me off, and I think I might be under-estimating how large they are.

[Greg Chambers]

Looks like bunkers with typical herring bone drainage, standard. What do you mean by space between?

[Erik J. Barzeski]

Looks like bunkers with typical herring bone drainage, standard. What do you mean by space between?

There are three on the right, and two on the left, and what looks like a lot of space in between them. Not enough for a fairway, so I thought maybe they were two sets of bunkers for two holes, and it would just be rough in between? Maybe one hole goes up and one hole goes down?


I thought they were bunkers (drains for bunkers), but the arrangement seemed odd to me.

[Kalen Braley]

Erik,


This is the spot from above in Google Maps, where the three holes converge.  Looks like they're redoing those bunkers in between those 2 holes.  1 and 9?


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kapalua,+HI+96761/@21.0072854,-156.643112,342m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x7eaad5b661965843:0x788921cc79706384!8m2!3d20.9997222!4d-156.6580556

[Erik J. Barzeski]

This is the spot from above in Google Maps, where the three holes converge.  Looks like they're redoing those bunkers in between those 2 holes.  1 and 9?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kapalua,+HI+96761/@21.0072854,-156.643112,342m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x7eaad5b661965843:0x788921cc79706384!8m2!3d20.9997222!4d-156.6580556

Aha, thank you, so it IS what I thought.

I appreciate you finding the spot and sharing the URL. Happy holidays!

[Kyle Harris]

A quibble:


French drains don't use pipe. Most herringbone pattern draining in bunkers and greens use pipe.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

French drains don't use pipe. Most herringbone pattern draining in bunkers and greens use pipe.

Really?

http://www.mike-kahn.com/french-drain.htm
http://www.multi-flow.com/Menu/french_drains.html

I'm actually asking… I also think I talked with Don Maples a looooong time ago, and he talked about the pipes in his French drains. So, is this just an older school definition, or… what?

[Kyle Harris]

French drains don't use pipe. Most herringbone pattern draining in bunkers and greens use pipe.

Really?

http://www.mike-kahn.com/french-drain.htm
http://www.multi-flow.com/Menu/french_drains.html

I'm actually asking… I also think I talked with Don Maples a looooong time ago, and he talked about the pipes in his French drains. So, is this just an older school definition, or… what?

Yes, definitely an older school definition. French drains used rocks to create space to move water in a trench.


I mainly made the post for a lurker who would rant about the misuse of term in a class long ago (He probably still does... actually).

[Erik J. Barzeski]

Yes, definitely an older school definition. French drains used rocks to create space to move water in a trench.

I mainly made the post for a lurker who would rant about the misuse of term in a class long ago (He probably still does... actually).

Okay. Cheers, and thanks.