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Marty Bonnar

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Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« on: November 12, 2018, 03:43:35 PM »

Just been watching Peter Jackson's incredible "They shall not grow old" which had been shown on the BBC as part of the armistice weekend.
At one point there's some footage of a field doctor treating a casualty.
Wishful thinking on my part? Or could it be?
Cigarette in mouth. Quite artful right hand position.







Modified as I changed the original Flickr pic.
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 04:34:30 PM »

Marty,


I don't think he worked as a doctor in WWI.


Jon
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BHoover

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 04:56:56 PM »
Is Dr. Ian Scott-Taylor also present in this photograph?
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 05:07:25 PM »
Quote from: BHoover on November 12, 2018, 04:56:56 PM
Is Dr. Ian Scott-Taylor also present in this photograph?


The name was David. But let’s not go there!!!
 ;D
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2018, 06:16:13 PM »
Marty,

Great eye. That could be him and according to Wikipedia he did serve in the military during WWI, not as a Surgeon but as a camoufleur.  Its very plausible he could have done some patch work in the field as shown there.  ;)

P.S. Give the recent passing of Stan Lee, who was a bigger presence in their field?  Dr MacK in golf course building or Stan Lee for Comics?
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Niall C

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2018, 05:42:35 AM »
It looks like Dr MacKenzie as played by Arthur Lowe  ;)
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 06:00:20 AM »
Arthur would obviously have been first choice to play the good doctor in the biopic!
 ;D
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Jim Hoak

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 09:40:58 AM »
My understanding is that he worked in the South African Boer war--but as a camouflage expert, not a doctor.  Nice theory, but no WWI as I understand it.
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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2018, 10:04:55 AM »
Quote from: Marty Bonnar on November 13, 2018, 06:00:20 AM
Arthur would obviously have been first choice to play the good doctor in the biopic!
 ;D


you stupid boy
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2018, 12:57:57 PM »
An enlightening and very emotional programme well worth viewing.
As to any similarity to A Mac, would not a camouflage expect aim to remain out of sight? Or is there some reverse camouflage here where a lookalike is made visible? :)

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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2018, 12:59:12 PM »
Quote from: Jim Hoak on November 13, 2018, 09:40:58 AM
My understanding is that he worked in the South African Boer war--but as a camouflage expert, not a doctor.  Nice theory, but no WWI as I understand it.


Jim, you need to read the timeline!
Cheers,
F.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2018, 01:00:04 PM »
Quote from: Adam Lawrence on November 13, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: Marty Bonnar on November 13, 2018, 06:00:20 AM
Arthur would obviously have been first choice to play the good doctor in the biopic!
 ;D


you stupid boy


Don’t tell him, Pike! 😄
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Jim Hoak

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2018, 09:29:06 PM »
Marty, I assume your answer to my comment means that I am wrong about MacKenzie and WWI?  What are the facts?
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2018, 11:19:51 PM »
Quote from: Jim Hoak on November 13, 2018, 09:29:06 PM
Marty, I assume your answer to my comment means that I am wrong about MacKenzie and WWI?  What are the facts?


My understanding is that MacKenzie served in WW1 as a camouflage expert having transferred from the Medical Corps to the Royal Engineers in May 1915. His work involved frequent visits to the front advising on the building of trenches and gun emplacements, so it is entirely conceivable that he also put his medical expertise to good use when required.


http://alistermackenzie.co.uk/files/2814/7928/9419/MackenzieChronology.pdf

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Kalen Braley

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2018, 11:29:59 PM »
If you look at the picture of Dr. MacK on page 5, you can see the resemblance.


Excellent work by the way on that PDF, hadn't seen that before.
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Sean_A

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2018, 03:58:29 AM »
Unless Dr Mac had a botched nose job, that guy above ain't him  8)

Ciao
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2018, 08:52:06 AM »
Quote from: Sean_A on November 14, 2018, 03:58:29 AM
Unless Dr Mac had a botched nose job, that guy above ain't him  8)

Ciao


Sean,
You HAVE actually seen a photo of the old boy's proboscis before haven't you???
 ;D 

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Joe Hancock

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2018, 11:33:54 AM »
OK, this thread is taking a turn in the wrong direction.


Signed,


Joey The Nose
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2018, 06:22:01 AM »
For those in the uk or with access to the BBC iplayer, here’s the link. The footage is at the 1hr 15min area. Don’t blink!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0brzkzx/they-shall-not-grow-old
F.
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2018, 06:37:34 AM »
Its an amazing programme
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2018, 09:45:03 AM »
Quote from: Mark Chaplin on November 15, 2018, 06:37:34 AM
Its an amazing programme


Quite fantastic. Very moving.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2018, 09:51:12 AM »

A similar side view (even including fag!):


F.
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Tim Gallant

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2018, 04:40:47 PM »
Quote from: BHoover on November 12, 2018, 04:56:56 PM
Is Dr. Ian Scott-Taylor also present in this photograph?


It's been a long time since I've laughed out loud reading this site, but this is gold. Well played sir.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2018, 12:38:32 AM »
The reliable I.D. is observed in the ears.  It is not the same man.
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Rich Goodale

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Re: Footage of MacKenzie from WWI?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2018, 05:34:10 AM »
Quote from: RJ_Daley on November 21, 2018, 12:38:32 AM
The reliable I.D. is observed in the ears.  It is not the same man.


 Bingo, Uncle Dick!
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