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MCirba

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2018, 03:44:38 PM »
Quote from: Ed Brzezowski on May 14, 2018, 11:32:08 AM
Didn't Montgomeryville morph into Pine something?

Ed,

Yes, four of the courses on my list have become new courses on the same site.

Montgomeryville was completely redesigned by Ron Prichard and is now PineCrest

Hidden Springs was a 36 hole complex that was blown up to become 18 hole Commonwealth National and an office park.

Nemacolin Woodlands (Links) closed and my understanding is that much of that land was used for the new Shepherd's Rock course.

Eagle Lodge closed and became The Ace Club.   Interestingly, that same site was Roxborough Country Club before Eagle Lodge.   I'm wondering if there is any other site in the world that had three separate, distinct golf courses built over it.

And Yorktowne closed and later became Hawk Lake which also closed.
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Ed Brzezowski

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2018, 04:31:38 PM »
I did not know that about Eagle Lodge. Played a bunch of golf there in the 90's.


Thanks for the info.
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B.Ross

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2018, 05:08:35 PM »
here's my list. despite being only 32, been playing different courses for nearly 20 years now. i've played 125 or so different places in the last 10 years, so probably another 40 between 96 and 08. 


1.    [/color]Center Valley (PA)[/size]
2.       Tallgrass ny
3.       Camino del mar/ mizner trail golf (boca raton fl)
4.       Lost canyons sky (simi valley CA)
5.       Lost canyons shadow (simi valley CA)
6.       Empire lakes (rancho cucomunga ca)
7.       Malibu gc (Malibu ca)
8.       Boca executive (fl)
9.       Boca lago (9 holes of original west course are now NLE) (boca raton, fl)
10.   Winter springs (near Orlando)
11.   Eastwinds (near Orlando)
12.   The links at shirley, long island.
13.   Elmwood cc, white plains ny
14.   Palm aire pines course (pompano fl)
15.   Concord international (catskills)
16.   Concord monster (catskills)
17.   Fallsview  (catskills)
18.   Nevele grand (catskills)
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MCirba

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2018, 05:18:30 PM »
The Concord Monster went belly up??  :'(


Lordy, this thread is getting depressing.
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Adam T

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2018, 06:33:03 PM »
I have played 173 unique courses in 12 states. To my knowledge, 2 NLE.

Crooked Creek Golf Club (Raleigh, NC)
Lakeshore Golf Course (Durham, NC)
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Matthew Rose

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2018, 07:11:20 PM »
I thought Osprey Ridge was gone. Maybe it's the Pete Dye one I'm thinking of.... that one is definitely pushing weeds.
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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2018, 07:17:01 PM »
The Concord Monster is being totally redesigned by Rees Jones:


http://www.reesjonesinc.com/the-monster/
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MCirba

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2018, 07:23:22 PM »
Quote from: Cliff Hamm on May 14, 2018, 07:17:01 PM
The Concord Monster is being totally redesigned by Rees Jones:


http://www.reesjonesinc.com/the-monster/


Well gee golly willikers... That oughta be good.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2018, 07:42:08 PM »

Quote from: Sean Ogle on May 14, 2018, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on May 13, 2018, 08:29:35 PM

23. Half in Oregon
West Hills Hoyt Park, Pleasant Valley, Orenco Woods, Neahkahnie, Top O'Scott, Veterans Memorial, Colwood Natl.,
Bandon (hickory), McKenzie River



Pete, I had no idea there was a golf course in the West Hills. Do you happen to know of any other resources or information on it?


Also, was bummed to see McKenzie close recently. Tokatee is might be the best hidden gem in the State, so often stopped by for 9 on my way up river.
West Hills was a Chandler Egan 9 hole course with the clubhouse near the site of the zoo entrance and extending up to Fairview Blvd. It had bout half a million (9 hole) rounds between 1924 and 1944. Closed because of the relocation of the Portland Zoo and the building of OMSI. It was replaced by Hoyt Park Pitch and Putt, which had a slow demise by the building of the Foresty Center, then the Vietnam Memorial.
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Sean Ogle

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2018, 07:55:29 PM »

West Hills was a Chandler Egan 9 hole course with the clubhouse near the site of the zoo entrance and extending up to Fairview Blvd. It had bout half a million (9 hole) rounds between 1924 and 1944. Closed because of the relocation of the Portland Zoo and the building of OMSI. It was replaced by Hoyt Park Pitch and Putt, which had a slow demise by the building of the Foresty Center, then the Vietnam Memorial.
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I was literally walking through Washington Park 4 days ago thinking "what would it look like if there were a golf course here?" Wish I was around to have seen it!
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Pete Lavallee

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2018, 08:14:20 PM »
Quite a few have just recently closed in San Diego Co:


San Louis Rey Downs
Carmel Highlands
Fallbrook GC
Escondido CC
Stoneridge
Salt Creek
The Lakes at Cottonwood, formerly Monte Vista
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2018, 10:22:57 PM »
I will now add the two courses at Concord in NY and Riddells Bay in Bermuda.  ;D
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Steve Lang

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2018, 11:22:17 PM »
P2,


I think Wolf Point's demise is premature, but Don M would know best of all... we played there last fall at their special open house event...


On MIke's listing I know two... Pecan Valley in San Antonio was a classic venue, very much missed layout if not conditioning at the end and Doak's High Point in Acme, MI is very missed every time we drive by on way into Traverse... played every year it was in existence, now a hops farm, very sad!
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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2018, 12:13:19 AM »
Quote from: Matthew Petersen on May 14, 2018, 12:55:27 PM
El Caro, AZ
Links at Continental Ranch, AZ (mostly)
Vistal, AZ
Centre Hills, CO
Eagle's Nest, CO
Great Sand Dunes, CO
Mira Vista, CO
Emerald River, NV
Coffee Creek, OK


What's the status of The Prince Course on Kauai these days?


ASU Karsten, AZ is soon to be, presumably


Eagles Nest and MV from your list, 40 from the Cali list, 2 near New Orleans, and 2 in Myrtle Beach. 46  but Malibu CC is making a comeback.
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Robin_Hiseman

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2018, 09:01:37 AM »
A fair few as it happens.


Edenbridge (Skeynes) - Without doubt the shittiest course I have ever played. Good riddance to this festering pile of crap.
Langton Hall  - A very short lived 9-holer, near Market Harborough, which had aspirations of being the home of England Rugby Union. Now a USGA spec sheep meadow. Designed by Hawtree. I surveyed it for its official course measurement. Played it twice and both times couldn't find anyone or anywhere to pay a green fee. Might have been a symptom of the problem.
Lamerwood - Once a posh oriental-owned country club near Harpenden, but gone now. Still just about recognisable as once being a golf course on Google Earth. It was quite pretty. Designed by Cameron Sinclair.
Whitekirk - Suffered by comparison with its illustrious East Lothian neighbours
Mentmore  - They might have been resurrected in the last year or so. Not worth the bother.
Inchmarlo - It was alright, but nothing special in an area full of good golf.
East Aberdeenshire - Not missed and barely noticed by anyone when it was open.
Royal New Kent - I hope and pray this amazing course can be saved.
Stonehouse - Ditto above, but I fear it is too far gone to invest the money it needs to make it a going concern.
Riffa, Bahrain - Well, I was rather responsible for destroying it to make way for a new course in its place.


...and on its way to Dignitas


Southwood - A pretty cruddy but handily located pay-and-play which is going be closed and turned into a park. It won't take long to convert given the minimal care it gets now.







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MCirba

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2018, 09:36:48 AM »
Just added what were the Championship and Wisner courses at City Park in New Orleans.   There is now a new Rees Jones course built post-Katrina atop those two courses.
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Brad Tufts

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2018, 11:11:50 AM »

I added commentary to my original post.


Yes, it was the Dye course, Eagle Point, that had a new Four Seasons built on it at Disney.
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Edward Glidewell

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2018, 12:50:08 PM »
The two courses at Angel's Trace on my NLE list were redeveloped into a single golf course called Jaguar's Lair, which was fully constructed and grassed (except for the greens, I think), then sat dormant for years without ever opening. They finally stopped maintaining it a couple of years ago and now it's been reclaimed by nature.
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Doug Wright

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2018, 12:54:56 PM »
I'm sure there are some others but here are some of mine:

Sea View Playland Pitch and Putt (Cape Cod, site of my first golf shot circa 1962)
High Pointe (MI)
Topsail Greens (NC) 
Riddells Bay (Bermuda)

And the following Colorado courses, in order of best to worst GCA:

Grandote Peaks
Green Gables
Mira Vista (Lowry AFB), replaced by Commonground
Great Sand Dunes
Fitzsimons AFB
Centre Hills
Mountain View
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Phil Carlucci

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2018, 02:31:42 PM »
Tallgrass (NY)
Calverton Links (NY)
Dix Hills GC (NY)

From 2005-08 we had an annual four-man Myrtle Beach trip and played I think 15 courses over four years.  A quarter of them have closed in a decade, maybe more.

Waterway Hills
Black Bear
Heather Glen
Bay Tree
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MCirba

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2018, 02:50:52 PM »
Ugh...just added Heather Glen and Waterway Hills.   My total is now up to 77 of 1083, or 7.1%

Still holding on adding two others that I suspect are more redesign/reconstruction than completely new golf course.   Those include the Concord (Monster) in NY and what was formerly Harbourtowne on the eastern shore of MD which is reopening this spring after a Pete re-do he and his brother Roy did back in 1971. 

My general rule of thumb is if a significant number of holes and/or hole corridors (routing) stays the same I just consider it a re-design or reconstruction (not a new course), even if new owners want to re-name/rebrand.
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Brad Tufts

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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2018, 03:23:57 PM »
I'm holding off on Isle Dauphine in Alabama...it closed circa 2005-2010, but nine holes re-opened last year!  It was on the original Golf Digest T100 toughest list.

Scouring my list now...adding another, Lafayette Hills in Syracuse closed in 2013.  It was attributed to Seymour Dunn, with a supposed Tillie visit in the 20s.
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2018, 12:19:37 AM »
add Vellano CC in chino hills ca to my list. lousy billy goat track built with mcmansions around it in the early 00s, they shuttered the course for good this past weekend. local reviews said  course conditions were barely tolerable for nearly a year now
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2018, 10:00:52 AM »
I will now add Royal New Kent to my list.


My favorite NLE courses among those that I played, in no particular order, are:  RNK, Beechtree, Blue Heron Pines East, Wren Dale/HersheyLinks and Tamiment.
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Evan Fleisher

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Re: How many NLE courses have you played?
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2018, 10:01:43 AM »
I've played 485 courses across 26 states...looks like I have 26 NLE's (for 5.3%).
CourseCityStateArchitect 1Year First PlayedYear Built
Champions Club At The RetreatCoronaCANicklaus, Jack2008-192006
Empire Lakes Golf CourseRancho CucamongaCAPalmer, Arnold2008-181996
Stevinson Ranch Golf ClubStevinsonCAHarbottle, John2005-011995
Miami Lakes Country Club Par3 CourseMiami LakesFLWatts, Bill1978-011964
California Golf ClubNorth MiamiFLMahannah, Mark1988-021980
Raintree Golf ResortPembroke PinesFLMahannah, Mark1989-021984
Spartan Meadows Golf ClubElginILPackard, Larry1997-111971
Timber Trails Country ClubLa GrangeILHarris, Robert Bruce1998-081931
Woodbine Golf CourseLockportILCunningham, Gordon1996-051987
Bachelor Runn Golf Club (9-Hole)FloraINSharp, Maurice1991-041986
Lafayette Municipal Golf ClubLafayetteINSimmons, Bob1991-051974
Par View Golf Club Par3 CourseWest LafayetteINDeinhart, Alvin1991-061961
Beechtree Golf ClubAberdeenMDDoak, Tom2002-031998
New Melle Lakes Golf ClubNew MelleMOChristener, Theodore1994-011991
St. Andrews Golf CourseSt. CharlesMODagleish, J.1992-051963
St. Charles Golf CourseSt. CharlesMOOlo, Ben1992-041924
Cherry Hills Golf ClubSt. LouisMOLinkogel, Art1994-021964
Mid Rivers Golf LinksSt. PetersMOStory, Ned1995-051993
Cedar Creek Golf Course (9-Hole)WentzvilleMOOwners, Golf Course1992-081980
Crystal Springs Golf ClubPinevilleNCCriscione, John1982-021972
Aurora Golf & Country ClubAuroraOHWay, Bertie2007-091924
Skyland Golf CourseHinckleyOHRhodes, James2011-131928
Oak Knolls Golf ClubKentOHMorrett, Howard2016-161961
Blue Heron Golf ClubMedinaOHRobinson, John2009-072003
Cooper's Creek Golf ClubPelionSCChase, Red2000-021974
Pecan Valley Golf ClubSan AntonioTXMaxwell, J. Press1995-011964
1964
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