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Ira Fishman

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Does it ever get old?
« on: April 24, 2018, 05:21:04 PM »
For those of you who are members at one of the top courses (defined as the couple hundred which uniformly are praised on this site) and live near the course, do ever get bored playing the course regularly?  I cannot imagine not wanting to tee it up every weekend on a CPC or Lahinch or Yale among the few top courses that I have played, but not having the option makes me wonder.


Ira

Scott McWethy

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 05:26:52 PM »
I think it depends on the course and what are your favorite design elements.  I belong to a club that has no trees.  Wide open.  I never get bored because the wind blows all different directions and will change throughout the day sometimes.  We don't have tall rough and the areas around the greens are mowed very low and are designed for chipping or putting so you can be very creative.  I also like the fact that you can run the ball onto the green on every hole.  Those elements always keep me wanting to go back for more.

Rick Lane

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 06:14:39 PM »
Never gets old for me, or my friends, mostly because we have amazing 1929 Tillinghast greens, and where the pin is, is everything.  The super can control scoring just by moving a pin 6 more inches into a slight slope on the green.   It’s actually one of the things we talk about as we play.   

Tom_Doak

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 06:41:24 PM »
Crystal Downs has never gotten old for me, but being under snow for several months each year ensures that.

Evan_Green

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 07:44:54 PM »
I'd say one of the characteristics of a great course is that you want to play it again and again. The more you play it, the more you appreciate it etc... so if you got bored after playing a course a bunch, maybe its not a great course to begin with?

PCCraig

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2018, 08:16:04 PM »
Crystal Downs has never gotten old for me, but being under snow for several months each year ensures that.


One of the things you realize here about golf in the "North" is that you are either excited to play in the Spring because you haven't played in seven months, you're excited to play in the heart of summer (all three weeks of it) because the weather is perfect, and you want to get as much golf in as you can in the fall because you know you won't play again in seven months!  :)
H.P.S.

Andrew Buck

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2018, 08:16:46 PM »
I think it depends on the course and what are your favorite design elements.  I belong to a club that has no trees.  Wide open.  I never get bored because the wind blows all different directions and will change throughout the day sometimes.  We don't have tall rough and the areas around the greens are mowed very low and are designed for chipping or putting so you can be very creative.  I also like the fact that you can run the ball onto the green on every hole.  Those elements always keep me wanting to go back for more.

I agree your club wouldn't get old, but I can certainly hit the ball enough off line to find very tall rough!

Wade Whitehead

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 09:19:11 PM »
I can tell you that Ballyhack never gets old.

Every time I play, I notice something I hadn't seen before.  There is ground game everywhere.  There are multiple ways to successfully play any given shot (including putts).  Ballyhack is chess, not checkers.

The golf course's greatest asset is its elasticity.  Every hole can play across a range of difficulty, depending on tee location, wind, and hole location.  It's big and bouncy.  It's fast and firm.  Maintenance meld is simply outstanding.

Service is top notch, accommodations are fantastic, and the food is incredible.  It's a place for friends, old and new, to have fun together.

It's pure golf and every time out is a treat.

WW

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 09:34:39 PM »
I prefer a roller coaster of emotions during a long term relationship. Constant euphoria sounds insane. So sure, I get bored all the time. Usually results in a bad shot. Then I'm not bored any longer.

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 11:11:34 PM »

I am not sure it needs to be restricted to the so called top 200. Good design always remains fresh, exciting and interesting.


Jon

Thomas Dai

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2018, 03:37:45 AM »
"Old" isnt the word I'd use, "boring' would be. Familiarity breeds contempt and all that.
At various times I've been a member of a few clubs usually placed high in various world rankings and continuous play gets boring.
An occasional game at somewhere different, somewhere lessor, preferably a great deal lessor, is a great reminder of how 'special' your regular venue is.
Which is one of the reasons I favour clubs with 27 holes. A main course 18-holer and a lessor spec 9-holer.
atb

Dave McCollum

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2018, 07:10:09 AM »
The older I get, it seems more important who I play with becomes.  I've known this for a long time:  regular retail golfers are more concerned about who they play with than where they.  No course grows old with good mates.  For awhile I made an effort to play some good courses, enjoyable for the pleasure of being able to experience wonderful design, but sometimes as a single without a game.  I probably "saw" the course better and learned more on my own, but in almost every case the experience was better when shared with friends, new and old.  My journey to play the best was a selfish pleasure to understand my passion, to learn what is great and why, as one would skip the party for a good book.  A better, more concentrated use of time, but personal and not social.  I would think that the gathering of members at a great course would be ideal:  appreciating the venue with like minded folks.  Sounds ideal to me and something I'd never tire of.  A self-selecting choice to associate with your people, your tribe, and have some fun.  However,  most golfers know nothing of these great courses and I find it impossible to explain why friends should experience great courses together.  Great course, great friends, what could be better?  Yet since most golfers don't have any experience playing great courses, friends is what it is all about.  And that's fine with me.  If my friends want to go  someplace cool, they know that I know how to make it happen and get the chance to explain why.  If not, we'll just go play golf and have some fun.  Pretty much like all of us understand how to enjoy the game.  Yikes!, I've become a retail golfer.     

Tim Martin

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2018, 07:12:38 AM »
The original post mentioned Yale and I can unequivocally say no it never gets old. Some thirty five years ago I remember seeing the course for the first time and thinking "why is this so different"? My interest in GCA was born and I don't think I have ever been anything but excited in the ensuing years to play. Additionally to watch the transformation and reclamation of what was originally intended at the skillful hand of Scott Ramsay has been incredible some fifteen years after he was hired to steer the ship.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 08:20:03 AM by Tim Martin »

Ira Fishman

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2018, 07:46:58 AM »
Tim, I played Yale some forty years ago and still have very fond memories even though I was a stupid college kid who knew nothing about architecture or architectural history.  One of my many regrets is that I was too lazy and/or too drunk to play it frequently when I had the chance.  Someday I will get back there.


Ira

Tim Martin

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2018, 08:26:17 AM »
Tim, I played Yale some forty years ago and still have very fond memories even though I was a stupid college kid who knew nothing about architecture or architectural history.  One of my many regrets is that I was too lazy and/or too drunk to play it frequently when I had the chance.  Someday I will get back there.


Ira


Ira-Way too many reasons to list to coax you back to Yale but the tree clearing and green expansions are two that quickly come to mind. Add equal parts of Louis Lunch and Frank Pepe and take a walk around the campus and you have a 5 star day in your future. Put on your calender in pen STAT.
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Doug Lionberger

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2018, 02:02:00 PM »
Ira - I could see one getting tired of playing the same course again and again which is why I think a great golf club with vibrant membership is far more important than the actual course (although having great courses and a great golf club would obviously be the ideal arrangement).

corey miller

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 02:20:31 PM »



I was going to use Yale as a comparator but am not familiar enough with the New Haven Area.  But...and I won't say "bored" but perhaps "preference"

If one's home course were Bethpage Black, say what you want, how do you describe the player/member that wants to go play a charming local Dev Emmet like St. George or Huntington or Perhaps non-dev Rockaway Hunting? 

In my view "bored" can also mean having to walk 7000 yards of course (especially if difficult terrain). 

Jay Mickle

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2018, 02:47:03 PM »
Having Mid Pines and Pine Needles in my backyard I have not grown tired of playing them. With probably 1500+ plays I am amazed that I they can still fascinate me.
It's almost 3 o'clock the resort guests are finishing up, ready for the 19th hole, Time for me to get to course for an unobstructed round.
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Ira Fishman

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2018, 03:09:18 PM »
Jay,


Watch out for the tree on Number 4 at MP :) .  And I am with you: I would never tire of playing those courses.  Next trip probably is in September.


Ira

V. Kmetz

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2018, 03:15:29 PM »

Ira-Way too many reasons to list to coax you back to Yale but the tree clearing and green expansions are two that quickly come to mind. Add equal parts of Louis Lunch and Frank Pepe and take a walk around the campus and you have a 5 star day in your future. Put on your calender in pen STAT.



Sorry Tim, as a lifelong CT citizen and frequent patron of New Haven, Pepe's Pizza is an overrated  justthisfar short of a Times Square tourist trap, as far as CT goes... same goes for Archie Moore's.


cheers  vk
"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

David_Tepper

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2018, 03:21:06 PM »
I have had the very good fortune to play most of my golf at two of the most highly regarded clubs/courses in the world for a number of years.

While it does not necessarily "get old," there are times I kind of take them for granted. One of the reasons I enjoy having a guest at either club is that their enjoyment and positive impressions of the clubs/courses reminds me of just how lucky I am. 
« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 03:34:32 PM by David_Tepper »

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2018, 03:43:35 PM »
If you're not bored you've settled. Or peaked, I'm not sure what is worse.

Tim Martin

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2018, 03:48:48 PM »

Ira-Way too many reasons to list to coax you back to Yale but the tree clearing and green expansions are two that quickly come to mind. Add equal parts of Louis Lunch and Frank Pepe and take a walk around the campus and you have a 5 star day in your future. Put on your calender in pen STAT.



Sorry Tim, as a lifelong CT citizen and frequent patron of New Haven, Pepe's Pizza is an overrated  justthisfar short of a Times Square tourist trap, as far as CT goes... same goes for Archie Moore's.


cheers  vk


VK-My allegiance lies only with the original Pepe’s on Wooster St. in New Haven as I’m not a fan of all the new locations. I like Roseland in Derby or Zuppardi’s in West Haven better if we are keeping score but you have to leave New Haven. Thanks for keeping it real man. ;D

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2018, 03:53:50 PM »
The last car I bought is the best I ever had, the last course I joined is the best I have ever played, the last woman I married is the best piece is ass I have ever known. Have I peaked? I hope the hell not. But damn if I don't get bored now and then.

Wade Whitehead

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Re: Does it ever get old?
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2018, 04:04:52 PM »
No course grows old with good mates.

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WW