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Mark Chaplin

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2018, 05:36:16 PM »
All the St Andrews courses are closed until next week, even the clubhouses are closed until the weekend.


Deal was open and on main greens until this morning, probably the only open course in the land!
Cave Nil Vino

Mark Pearce

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2018, 02:42:46 AM »
A few answers.


Yes, winner of match 1 will play winner of match 2, etc.


Can we try and get these matches played by end of April, please?


Duncan, yes, we meet in round two (though the way I'm playing at the moment I wouldn't rule out a shock result seeing Bye make it through to the second round).  Let's give it a go.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Rich Goodale

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2018, 04:45:27 AM »
Hi Mark


I'll be in Florida from 3/14 to the end of May, so me playing Clyde by the end of April will not be possible, particularly since all golf in Scotland will be kaput for the next two weeks or so.  Alas....


If we can defer that to early June, let me know.  Otherwise, I'm going to change my last name to Bye for next year...


Rich
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Niall C

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2018, 08:09:01 AM »
Oh well, it was great while it lasted!


There’s quite a lot of Byes there. Who do you have to know? Is it just because I didn’t wish you a Happy Birthday?
 ;D
F.


I love your confidence Marty. At least with this weather we'll have plenty of time to choose a venue!


Ian

Ian

Don't be fooled, FBD is about to go off for three weeks warm weather training in the Australian sandbelt. You have been warned !!

Niall

Niall C

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2018, 08:10:08 AM »
Johnson vs. Goodale.  REVENGE!

Gentlemen

I'd be very happy to join you again this year if you'll have me.

Niall

Clyde Johnson

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2018, 09:54:26 AM »
Johnson vs. Goodale.  REVENGE!

Gentlemen

I'd be very happy to join you again this year if you'll have me.

Niall


Of course...I'm keen to get to another relatively under-the-radar Central Belt course, if Rich is!?

Ben Stephens

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2018, 10:58:13 AM »
Johnson vs. Goodale.  REVENGE!

Gentlemen

I'd be very happy to join you again this year if you'll have me.

Niall


Of course...I'm keen to get to another relatively under-the-radar Central Belt course, if Rich is!?


Clyde/Rich


Can I recommend Downfield in Dundee - which is a gem and the first 14 holes are good not too sure about the last 4. It was designed by CK Cotton and my university team home course. Another is Caird Park a Colt course.


Cheers
Ben

Ben Stephens

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2018, 11:00:45 AM »
Mark,


Boy! Andy Levett and I are miles apart!!  ;D  can I suggest we play Moortown at £50 rate before the end of March? others are welcome to join us as a four ball.


Andy - I have played Alwoodley and Sandmoor in North Leeds so Moortown could be a good bet. If you have any suggestions let me know


Cheers
Ben

Michael Whitaker

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2018, 11:27:39 AM »
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Clyde Johnson

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2018, 01:37:42 PM »
Johnson vs. Goodale.  REVENGE!

Gentlemen

I'd be very happy to join you again this year if you'll have me.

Niall


Of course...I'm keen to get to another relatively under-the-radar Central Belt course, if Rich is!?


Clyde/Rich


Can I recommend Downfield in Dundee - which is a gem and the first 14 holes are good not too sure about the last 4. It was designed by CK Cotton and my university team home course. Another is Caird Park a Colt course.


Cheers
Ben


Only if they let me loose with a chainsaw between now and when Rich gets back...!

Andy Levett

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2018, 04:09:40 AM »
Hi Ben, I'm unavailable in March after the 20th but if we can squeeze it in before then Moortown is a good shout. I'll IM some possible dates. They will probably do twilight rates in April.
Cheers

Ben Stephens

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2018, 04:16:46 AM »
Hi Ben, I'm unavailable in March after the 20th but if we can squeeze it in before then Moortown is a good shout. I'll IM some possible dates. They will probably do twilight rates in April.
Cheers


Hi Andy,


Lets make it sometime in April at a twilight rate we will see the course in a better nick as some golf courses need time to recover after a long cold spell as we are going through at present.


If there is anyone that would like to join Andy and I at Moortown - let me know


Cheers
Ben

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2018, 10:01:52 AM »
Ben,


Moortown would make sense for Mark and me too. Perhaps we could play two matches at once!

David McIntosh

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2018, 03:34:48 PM »
Jon,

Any initial thoughts on somewhere we can play between you and Edinburgh?

I’ll be in your area for Buda but we’ll have to have played before then. Are you down in the central belt at any point in the next couple of months?

David

Jon Wiggett

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2018, 04:11:14 PM »

Hi David,


I will be down at the end of March for the 'Winter Meet' otherwise we could look at somewhere around Perth/Dundee maybe. Possibly best to look at Links if it is going to be in March/April unless there is an inland course thereabouts which is a good winter venue.


It might be best to PM rather than clutter this thread with our ponderings!!!


Jon

Mark Pearce

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2018, 07:47:27 AM »

[size=78%]Rich, in the best spirit of GCA, the idea is to play golf.  So long as you and Clyde can get the game played soon  after your return to the country and the others on that side of the draw can be flexible (as I'm sure they can), that's fine.  I'd far rather the game was played.[/size]


Ben, Andy, Duncan, yes making it a fourball in the Leeds area sounds good.  Moortown is an obvious option but don't ignore Sand Moor and I haven't seen (and would like to) Horsforth (allegedly some Mackenzie), Pannal and Headingley. 
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Colin Shellard

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2018, 11:55:17 AM »
I know my first game is a while off yet - but can I just check the format is straight up Matchplay, full allowances off the medal tees (assuming the course allows this)?


We’re not playing some strange stableford format or anything?

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2018, 01:05:39 PM »
Mark,


Headingley received rave reviews a couple of years ago from my friends in the Alister MacKenzie society.


Unfortunately I missed that day and have been meaning to visit ever since.


Pannal is also a lovely course.

James Boon

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2018, 01:07:37 PM »
Colin,


Yes matchplay off full allowance.


Tees are as required by the host club or the pairs discretion. I recall one round last year when I played winner chooses the tee on the next hole, which brings a little interest, perhaps architecturally, into the match.


As lots of matches are played at neutral venues it might also be worth agreeing what to do in the event of a tie before getting underway?


Cheers,


James
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2018, 03:36:01 PM »
Colin


Tees are as required by the host club or the pairs discretion. I recall one round last year when I played winner chooses the tee on the next hole, which brings a little interest, perhaps architecturally, into the match.



Cheers,


James


Indeed the final was played that way.  Interesting because at least for me it’s something new.  With the honour you are in the driving seat and it’s one more decision to make, where does it give you the advantage? It’s not always clear and indecision is fatal. It depends on the club but I hope the idea catches on.


Re ties. I would suggest in descending order


Sudden death- where allowed/possible


A putt off




Toss of a coin


Anything but count back in match play.



Let's make GCA grate again!

Rich Goodale

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2018, 08:11:34 AM »
Generalissimo Marco


I assume from your post #65 that if Clyde and I play in very late May/early June that will be OK?


Clyde


Some thoughts on some not so well known tracks on GCA as a venue, from west to east:


West Kilbride
Lanark
Glenbervie
Stirling
Monifieth
Arbroath
Montrose


....or if you want to try some not well-kent sacred nines....


Bridge of Allan
Auchterderran
A'nster


To be fair, I've played all of those except Arbroath, so if you want neutrality and no trees, that would be a good choice.


Niall


Of course you are welcome to join us, wherever and whenever!


Rich







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Any afterlife is unlikely and/or dodgy.

Jean-Paul Parodi

Clyde Johnson

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2018, 09:42:25 AM »
Generalissimo Marco


I assume from your post #65 that if Clyde and I play in very late May/early June that will be OK?


Clyde


Some thoughts on some not so well known tracks on GCA as a venue, from west to east:


West Kilbride
Lanark
Glenbervie
Stirling
Monifieth
Arbroath
Montrose


....or if you want to try some not well-kent sacred nines....


Bridge of Allan
Auchterderran
A'nster


To be fair, I've played all of those except Arbroath, so if you want neutrality and no trees, that would be a good choice.


Niall


Of course you are welcome to join us, wherever and whenever!


Rich




Rich,

We can continue this via e-mail nearer the time, but in the spirit of this competition - or what I thought it was supposed to be about!? - it would be good to highlight a course truly under the radar...

I'm not sure the Angus courses really count for that, though Arbroath is unheralded and has some cool stuff.

Of those I haven't played, and were on my list of places to get to: West Kilbride (which probably doesn't count, either) and Glenbervie.


I don't know much about Stirling, except that it is a mix of Old Tom, Braid and Henry Cotton.

The landscapes of the Bridge of Allan and Auchterderran look pretty interesting, but might be best saved for an emergency nine?


To add to the candidate list, a few closer to Glasgow, which Niall might be able to comment on: Cawder, Ranfurly Castle, Pollok, Cathkin Braes, East Renfrewshire.


Cheers,


Clyde
« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 09:44:06 AM by Clyde Johnson »

Niall C

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2018, 11:15:58 AM »
Clyde
 
Of the Glasgow ones the only one I haven’t played is Cathkin Braes, which is a bit ironic as it’s the closest to where I grew up. It does have a pretty decent rep locally although not the flattest course you will ever play !! It has however produced some good players over the years the latest being Scott Jamieson.
 
Of the other Glasgow ones I’d happily recommend them all with the caveat that at this time of year and given the recent weather, parts of Cawder will be wet, most of Pollok will be very wet while Ranfurly Castle and East Ren are both moorland so will have the odd moist spot as well. Basically, inland golf in winter.
 
Niall

Niall C

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2018, 11:40:12 AM »
Folks
 
As an aside, and given the idea is to go off the beaten track, it’s good to hear of potential venues that you/I wouldn’t normally think of or even have heard of so from that respect please continue to discuss on this thread.
 
Niall

Mark Pearce

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Re: UK Knock-Out 2018
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2018, 03:31:19 PM »
Ricardo,


Si.


Niall,


Completely agree.  Venues should be chosen in the spirit of GCA and discussion here is entirely appropriate, indeed desirable.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.