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ward peyronnin

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2017, 01:48:03 PM »
Maybe we should start a fund to provide some cheese with these peoples whine

And they need to confirm the pro shop isn't selling racist golf balls
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 01:56:15 PM »
But is it Ward?


The entire course is surrounded by housing and this is the only place on the entire course they did this...on just this one hole.  Just a coincidence?

corey miller

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 02:20:14 PM »



Sounded like the development preceded the golf course and the new developments that occurred may have been linked to the golf.  Of course, that has nothing to do with the original intent.

They should give these people the choice and perhaps a nicer buffer if that is what is requested.

Does anyone know if these homes are "in-play" from a safety POV?

Forrest Richardson

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 02:19:31 PM »
I was wondering when this thread would get started. Last week I appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight and had to do some research to get re-familiar with this course. It is the old Palm Springs Municipal, c. 1961 Billy Bell (Wm F. Bell). The corridor width is just 240 feet total, so the Tamarisk tree "hedge" is performing quite a duty to help minimize errant balls to the right.

The adjacent neighborhood — which was reported to be once predominantly black — was never a part of the golf course land and planning.  As with many similar course evolvements, plantings along the outer edges of the golf parcel were common. I have no idea if the trees in question were planted to shield the golf course from the outlying "black" neighborhood, but I can certainly see how a row of trees would be called for to help control errant balls.

Interestingly, we found an early 1960s aerial and it shows the hedge in place before many of the homes in this neighborhood were even built. Whether the trees were planted for "racist" reasons can probably be debated and not likely ever resolved. But, after working on and visiting scores of Bell courses over the last 30 years I remain convinced that we would typically see trees densely planted along any corridor less than 300 feet in width...such is the case here.
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noonan

Re: Tree removal
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 09:11:44 PM »
Tucker is great!

David Wuthrich

Re: Tree removal
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 10:31:11 PM »
I needed a good laugh to end the year!!

Forrest Richardson

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2018, 03:02:51 PM »
It seems laughable, yet it is very serious when you consider the "racist" remark has now led to mediation and a neighborhood (and political) debate that may well lead to result where a serious injury from an errant golf ball is likely.
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Forrest Richardson

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Re: Tree removal
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2018, 03:17:46 PM »
BTW, someone let me know that the Tucker Carlson Tonight segments were repeated in part on subsequent nights. Here are the You Tube links...I particularly enjoyed Mark Steyn (filling in for Tucker) commenting that it was "the biggest story of 2017" and then, to my surprise, he used part of my comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8PvHQqQxgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjlRDMMb60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BTNmlyxA_k

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