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Bernie Bell

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2020, 06:47:35 AM »
Is this actually a PETE Dye course? I would wager he stepped on this property not more than once. My feeling.

Matt, see articles linked at Reply 7 and 8.
Npt surprised. Just by looking at it in photos I could see it was done by one of his son's.

The press coverage, including quotes from PB, suggests that the father was quite involved.  All the same to me either way.  I enjoy the PB Dye and Rum Pointe (Pete/PB) courses elsewhere in Maryland. I look forward to playing this one.

Bill Shotzbarger

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2020, 06:01:53 PM »



The greens are A1/A4. The  fairways are pureforemance bentgrass & the tees are 007.


Thanks for clarifying.  I don't think I have ever played bentgrass greens like that...but maybe I have.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2020, 08:45:03 PM »

The press coverage, including quotes from PB, suggests that the father was quite involved.  All the same to me either way.  I enjoy the PB Dye and Rum Pointe (Pete/PB) courses elsewhere in Maryland. I look forward to playing this one.


The press coverage is always going to say what the owner wants it to say.


That said, P. B. Dye did some great work early in his career, with his dad still coming in to edit things, and tone him down a bit.  When he started doing stuff on his own, it was wilder -- like he was trying to outdo his dad -- and not as appealing, to me anyway.  The two of them working together would be something worth seeing.

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2020, 09:26:05 PM »

The press coverage, including quotes from PB, suggests that the father was quite involved.  All the same to me either way.  I enjoy the PB Dye and Rum Pointe (Pete/PB) courses elsewhere in Maryland. I look forward to playing this one.


The press coverage is always going to say what the owner wants it to say.


That said, P. B. Dye did some great work early in his career, with his dad still coming in to edit things, and tone him down a bit.  When he started doing stuff on his own, it was wilder -- like he was trying to outdo his dad -- and not as appealing, to me anyway.  The two of them working together would be something worth seeing.
Prestwick CC in Myrtle Beach has always been marketed as a Pete/P.B. creation. I played it today for the first time in several years and forgot how solid it is. Interesting mix of subtle and more expressive features. Some really gnarly shaping around the 9th and 18th greens, but then some more toned-down stuff elsewhere, including an excellent fall-away green on the long par-4 3rd. Tom, did you see or play the course back when you were working at Legends?
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2020, 04:21:33 PM »

The press coverage, including quotes from PB, suggests that the father was quite involved.  All the same to me either way.  I enjoy the PB Dye and Rum Pointe (Pete/PB) courses elsewhere in Maryland. I look forward to playing this one.


The press coverage is always going to say what the owner wants it to say.


That said, P. B. Dye did some great work early in his career, with his dad still coming in to edit things, and tone him down a bit.  When he started doing stuff on his own, it was wilder -- like he was trying to outdo his dad -- and not as appealing, to me anyway.  The two of them working together would be something worth seeing.
Prestwick CC in Myrtle Beach has always been marketed as a Pete/P.B. creation. I played it today for the first time in several years and forgot how solid it is. Interesting mix of subtle and more expressive features. Some really gnarly shaping around the 9th and 18th greens, but then some more toned-down stuff elsewhere, including an excellent fall-away green on the long par-4 3rd. Tom, did you see or play the course back when you were working at Legends?

Tim, your post on Prestwick reminded me to re-process my photos from a visit there in March of 2016:

http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Prestwick/index.html
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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Tom_Doak

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2020, 04:47:29 PM »

Prestwick CC in Myrtle Beach has always been marketed as a Pete/P.B. creation. I played it today for the first time in several years and forgot how solid it is. Interesting mix of subtle and more expressive features. Some really gnarly shaping around the 9th and 18th greens, but then some more toned-down stuff elsewhere, including an excellent fall-away green on the long par-4 3rd. Tom, did you see or play the course back when you were working at Legends?


Prestwick is mostly P.B.'s work.  I knew the superintendent when we were working down there and I did play it once or twice.  But it was the epitome of a housing-development routing and I didn't think the featuring of the holes could really break free of that.  In fact, that was my example of why we needed to build the first course at The Legends without any housing bordering the holes -- so we didn't have to grade it back to flat at the edges.

Matt Kardash

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Re: Links at Perry Cabin?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2020, 07:19:34 PM »
Prestwick has a weird stretch of holes on the front nine where suddenly the holes have hardly any shaping. It's like PB ran out of money or something. It's just jarring in comparison to the massive shaping on some of the other holes.I got to play the course a lot as a kid since we vacationed in Myrtle Beach every summer. It was one of the better options in the area.
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