Design Associate Needed

[Richard_Mandell]

Guys, I have fortunately found myself in the business of expansion and am looking for additional help.  If you know of anyone, please spread the word or email me directly.  Below is the job description.  Thanks.

Richard Mandell Golf Architecture is seeking a Design Associate for our Pinehurst, North Carolina office with a Bachelors degree in Landscape Architecture or Civil Engineering and a knowledge and passion for golf.  The candidate must be self-motivated with the ability and desire to work with others and multitask in a fast-paced environment on various projects throughout the U.S. and abroad. 
 
Successful candidates must be knowledgeable with AutoCAD as well as Adobe In Design.  In addition, 3-D graphic skills (3DS Max, Sketchup, Rhino), Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, Illustrator), and HTML/CSS skills are preferred.
 
Additional skills desired are in site design, earthwork grading and calculations, planting design, land planning, presentation graphics and rendering skills.  Please send a resume, work samples, and references to richard@golf-architecture.com if interested. 

[Marty Bonnar]

Richard,
Care to say how much you're offering?


Modified:
Care to say how much/what you're offering?

Regards,
Martin.

[Richard_Mandell]

Marty,


It depends on who is interested.  I am open to someone entry level to five years' experience.  If you have someone in mind, you can email me and we can talk more details there.


Thanks.

[Marty Bonnar]

No. With all due respect, if you're going to use GCA as a platform for a job advert, you need to at least comply with simple HR niceties.
Job adverts must state what you, as an employer, are looking for in a potential employee, which you've done very nicely, and then at the very least, provide a statement of what YOU are going to provide IN RETURN to potential candidates.
Your 'advert' only states what you are looking for with no mention of possible remuneration, experience gains, job benefits, pension rights and so on.
Yes, given its unique position, it's nice to use this forum as a potential source of employees, but in my opinion, you've fallen very short of any requirement of suitable information that a good candidate would require.
Good luck,
F.


PS I should say if you're looking for a pugilistic, obnoxious Scotsman, I'm probably it!

[JJShanley]

I've found it quite common in the United States, at least in the sectors in which I work, for vacancies to omit salary and benefit details. 

[Ben Malach]

No salary in the job advert is not going to scare me away from applying. Expect my Portfolio and CV in the next 48 hours.

[John Connolly]

Richard,
If I was in the biz, I'd apply based on your ad "as is." It's just fine. I wouldn't expect to see the salary listed in this environment. Good luck!

[Richard_Mandell]

Marty,


I am not looking for a pugilistic, obnoxious Scotsman.  Thanks for your interest.

[Tommy Williamsen]

If I were forty years younger and had the skill set you need it would have been a dream job knowing some of the work you have done. Many job advertisements do not include remuneration. Good luck.

[archie_struthers]

 




Pugilistic perhaps , obnoxious c'mon!


Civility gentleman please.


Don't have enough skills to apply but sure would enjoy doing another course or two !


Good luck Richard

[Jonathan Mallard]

I'm more curious about the bifurcation of preferred qualifications.


Landscape Architecture and Civil Engineering generally lead to very different skill sets.

[Richard_Mandell]

Jonathan,


The specific skill sets I am looking for are described in the narrative and where the split is between Civil Engineering and Landscape Archtiecture occurs, I would wlwcome both skill sets.  I currently have a civil engineer on staff and I am a landscape architect.  I am open to hiring another one on either side.

[PCCraig]

Rich,


Would you accept someone with no design background but a passion for golf course architecture and significant banking experience?? 

[Adam Warren]

Nothing wrong with the posting.  Many areas will list benefits such as 401k, paid time off, etc, but not in detail.  Very few lines of work will list pay unless they are government jobs which generally have a set pay range. 

[Steve_Lovett]

If you have the qualifications and experience Richard has requested you should already have an idea of the general salary range.


Good luck, Richard. It's encouraging to see some growth in the design field and I'm sure you'll have several quality candidates to select from.

[Richard_Mandell]

PAt,


I'll take a significant bankroll instead.  That would be nice and it would elimiante any salary discussions as well.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

Ever wonder why some defect from regular attendance on this site and choose to spend more time "lounging" .....well here is a great example, nit picking when somebody is opening the door for somebody in what is a rare opportunity in this economy.
I swear never known anywhere ,where so many just want to nit pick and complain...
Headed to my lounge to watch basketball

[Garland Bayley]

Ever wonder why some defect from regular attendance on this site and choose to spend more time "lounging" .....well here is a great example, nit picking when somebody is opening the door for somebody in what is a rare opportunity in this economy.
I swear never known anywhere ,where so many just want to nit pick and complain...
Headed to my lounge to watch basketball

Marty was being Marty. I don't call that nit picking.

[Pat Burke]

As a former tour pro, I am qualified to stand in a piece of property, wearing my sunglasses, hold a roll of plans while pointing in to the distance.


Of course, I would also assume I get at least co design credit for hitting a tee shot opening day

[Peter Pallotta]

As a former tour pro, I am qualified to stand in a piece of property, wearing my sunglasses, hold a roll of plans while pointing in to the distance.

Of course, I would also assume I get at least co design credit for hitting a tee shot opening day

Don't sell yourself short, Pat. You'd also add two bunkers to every hole, one greenside and one 285 yards from the tee; ensure that each green was relatively flat but had 3 distinct 'shelves'; create at least one awkward point in the routing and two very long walks so as to eliminate that pesky uphill shot with a semi blind approach; and cap it off with a cape style Par 5 18th hole as your homage to Pebble (or is it Bay Hill), and all the while demonstrating that architects don't fully understand strategy because they aren't among the best golfers in the world. After giving all that, co-design credit is the very least you should ask for!
 

[Mike Nuzzo]

Ever wonder why some defect from regular attendance on this site and choose to spend more time "lounging" .....well here is a great example, nit picking when somebody is opening the door for somebody in what is a rare opportunity in this economy.
I swear never known anywhere ,where so many just want to nit pick and complain...
Headed to my lounge to watch basketball

Marty was being Marty. I don't call that nit picking.

MWP and Garland
I wouldn't say Marty is being Marty, which I enjoy anyway.
I would say this isn't the first time Richard has copied and pasted an HR approved job posting.
And in the past there are good questions raised.


My questions to Richard would be, how have your candidates performed over the years?
Have you seen a difference in their performance for being knowledgeable of Rhino?
How many associates & interns have you hired over the history of your business?
What aspect of their experiences has helped you most?


Cheers

[Mark Pavy]

Ever wonder why some defect from regular attendance on this site and choose to spend more time "lounging" .....well here is a great example, nit picking when somebody is opening the door for somebody in what is a rare opportunity in this economy.
I swear never known anywhere ,where so many just want to nit pick and complain...
Headed to my lounge to watch basketball

Exactly!

[Mike Sweeney]

Ever wonder why some defect from regular attendance on this site and choose to spend more time "lounging" .....well here is a great example, nit picking when somebody is opening the door for somebody in what is a rare opportunity in this economy.
I swear never known anywhere ,where so many just want to nit pick and complain...
Headed to my lounge to watch basketball

Exactly!

Agreed. It's Ran's site, but for me, the hiring of golf course architects and/or associates would add to the credibility of the site.


I have given the needle to Tom Doak on occasion, and this would seem to be an opportunity to thank him for his contributions over the years.


Thanks Tom.

[Jon Wiggett]

Nothing wrong in wondering what the employer has to offer not just what they expect. I doubt you would get many applications for a job in Europe without it.


Jon

[Ally Mcintosh]

You'd get hundreds for this particular job  offer, Jon.


Ok, so Richard's looking for a cad-jockey but it's a door open and there aren't many opportunities. And anyway, no designer I've known has ever employed someone primarily on their understanding of strategy and the intricacies of design philosophies. Associates are needed because they are good at graphics or they are good at shaping, dependent on business model. They can grow in to the other stuff after that and only then if the principal is a selfless type of dude.