Second holes that return to the clubhouse

[Bill_McBride]

i just posted about a hole like this at La Cumbre in Santa Barbara.   The clubhouse is on a steep hill. The first hole is a 430 yard par 4 off that hill, the second returns to the clubhouse with an uphill approach to a two tier green right below the clubhouse. 


This seems to be a recurring theme with Thomas.  Riviera's second comes back to the clubhouse.   There are some benefits:   Sudden death playoffs starting at #1 don't get far from the house.  The perennially late guy can join you on the third tee only 2 down. 


Our second hole at Pensacola does this.    What other courses feature this returning second hole.  (I can't remember if Bel Air does, it's been too long, and I have no idea today what were the first two holes in the original Ojai routing!)

[Tom_Doak]

i just posted about a hole like this at La Cumbre in Santa Barbara.   The clubhouse is on a steep hill. The first hole is a 430 yard par 4 off that hill, the second returns to the clubhouse with an uphill approach to a two tier green right below the clubhouse. 


This seems to be a recurring theme with Thomas.  Riviera's second comes back to the clubhouse.   There are some benefits:   Sudden death playoffs starting at #1 don't get far from the house.  The perennially late guy can join you on the third tee only 2 down. 


Our second hole at Pensacola does this.    What other courses feature this returning second hole.  (I can't remember if Bel Air does, it's been too long, and I have no idea today what were the first two holes in the original Ojai routing!)

Bel Air does not return at #2 green, as there is only room for the 9th and 18th holes to come back up to the clubhouse in that space.  Gotta follow the canyons!


However, Thomas was a big proponent of coming back to the clubhouse with #2 in his book, for precisely the two reasons you stated above.  It was influential enough on me that High Pointe came back to the clubhouse at #2.  I can't think if I have ever done so again.

[J_ Crisham]

Philly Cricket

[BCowan]

Grosse Ile

[mike_malone]

Rolling Green does that. Tonight I played the back, 3 and 4, and ended on 2. 

[Pete_Pittock]

Portland GC, which had a Ryder Cup.

[Bill_McBride]

Rolling Green does that. Tonight I played the back, 3 and 4, and ended on 2.

Whisky loop?

[mike_beene]

The old Turnberry routing does this;not sure about the new routing. Also, Shady Oaks and Ridgewood in Waco do this. I think the New England club where they used to play a tour tourney(Pleasant Valley?) does this as well.

[Pat Burke]

Riviera

[Greg Gilson]

Dunbar?

[Steve Slotemaker]

Top of mind:
Palouse Ridge Golf Course in Pullman, WA (2nd hole)
University of Idaho Golf Course in Moscow, ID (3rd hole)

[Robert Mercer Deruntz]

Fenway
Deepdale
Fresh Meadow
Creek
Rockaway Hunt
Yale
Wannamoisett
LACC South

[Tim Gallant]

Cal Club

[Bill Shamleffer]

Algonquin GC, St. Louis, Mo.

[Ben Stephens]

Isle of Purbeck 

[Joe Bausch]

Cobb's Creek.

[Greg Stebbins]

Hackensack
Upper Montclair (West)
Tamarack
Rhode Island CC
Saucon Valley (Old)
Olympic (Lake)
Conway Farms

[Criss Titschinger]

Clovernook CC in Cincinnati.

[Nigel Islam]

Crystal Downs, Olympic Lake, and Sewanee.

[Ben Voelker]

Elie

[BHoover]

The 3rd hole at Columbus CC returns to the clubhouse (it was 18 in the original routing).

[Stephen Pellegrino]

Ekwanok.

[Stephen Pellegrino]

...and at Dunbar #3 green comes back to the clubhouse. In fact, it's closer to the clubhouse than the 18th green is.

[MCirba]

The first two courses I ever played, both modest former farm nine-holers (Scott-View GC and Wemberley Hills GC)   each had a second hole returning to the clubhouse.  Perhaps archies John Kosydar and Joe Bosak, respectively, were also disciples of Captain Thomas? 

[JStewart]

Birmingham CC (MI)